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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: Seneca Driver on April 02, 2010, 01:26:49 PM

Title: Wrong routes on Delta tags
Post by: Seneca Driver on April 02, 2010, 01:26:49 PM

I am noticing a lot of bad route information for Delta flight tags passing through the Seattle area.  The routes shown do not match actual routes being flown in some cases.  Is there a solution for this?

Thank you,

Seneca Driver
Seattle

Title: Re: Wrong routes on Delta tags
Post by: NF2G on April 02, 2010, 02:25:53 PM

There are several wrong routes in whatever database is being used for many airlines, especially for flights to and from the USA.

A current example:

AIC191 is passing over the Albany VOR right now.  The route shows as VOMM-VABB-EDDF.  Can't be. 

According to FlightAware, the actual route is EDDF-KEWR.  This is consistent with the aircraft's location, direction, and altitude.

Title: Re: Wrong routes on Delta tags
Post by: DaveReid on April 02, 2010, 02:47:05 PM

Quote from: NF2G on April 02, 2010, 02:25:53 PM

AIC191 is passing over the Albany VOR right now.  The route shows as VOMM-VABB-EDDF.  Can't be. 

According to FlightAware, the actual route is EDDF-KEWR.  This is consistent with the aircraft's location, direction, and altitude.

I've found it helps a great deal to do this kind of sanity-check (actual aircraft location vs. routing) to minimise the risk of delivering an invalid route - in fact it's done automatically by my FlightRouteLookup web service.  A lookup for AIC191 with a location of overhead Albany returns the following:

  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
- <Flight>
  <FlightNumber>AIC191</FlightNumber>
  <Callsign>Airindia 191</Callsign>
  <Error>Route leg found is not consistent with entered lat/lon</Error>
- <Leg>
- <Origin>
  <ICAOCode>EDDF</ICAOCode>
  <IATACode>FRA</IATACode>
  <AirportName>FRANKFURT (INTERNATIONAL)</AirportName>
  <Country>GERMANY</Country>
  </Origin>
- <Destination>
  <ICAOCode>KEWR</ICAOCode>
  <IATACode>EWR</IATACode>
  <AirportName>NEWARK</AirportName>
  <Country>UNITED STATES</Country>
  </Destination>
  <GCDistanceNM>3352</GCDistanceNM>
  <DistanceFromOriginNM>3260</DistanceFromOriginNM>
  <DistanceFromDestinationNM>127</DistanceFromDestinationNM>
  </Leg>
  </Flight>

 In this case "Route leg found is not consistent with entered lat/lon" indicates that there is another leg for this flight (VAAH-EDDF) which isn't consistent with overflying Albany, whereas the EDDF-KEWR leg is.

Oh, and before I get accused of ugly commercialism, FlightRouteLookup is a free service, always has been and always will be, open to all to use  :-)

Title: Re: Wrong routes on Delta tags
Post by: tarbat on April 06, 2010, 08:24:24 AM

Quote from: DaveReid on April 02, 2010, 02:47:05 PM

Oh, and before I get accused of ugly commercialism, FlightRouteLookup is a free service, always has been and always will be, open to all to use  :-)

And well worth using for route lookups.  Goto http://www.flightroutelookup.com/FlightRoute/ and select FlightLookup (http://www.flightroutelookup.com/FlightRoute/FlightLookup.wso?op=FlightLookup)