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AirNav Radar => AirNav Radar Discussion => Topic started by: tarbat on March 22, 2010, 10:57:15 AM
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For anyone using multilateration in Planeplotter. I now use the GE KML plugin to display the results of multilateration in Radarbox. In this screenshot, you can see a Nimrod being tracked on the map.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4453262183_8d06d07c81.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4453262183/sizes/o/)
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Hi tarbat, how is this done? As a planeplotter user myself I would love to see mlat aircraft on my radarbox screen
cheers
mark
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In Planeplotter:
1. Sign-up for multilateration
2. Configure Planeplotter for multilateration
3. Setup the Google Earth server in Planeplotter I/O settings
4. Put the attached google_aircraft.kml file in you Radarbox GE_Layers folder
5. In Radarbox 3D, open the layer.
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Hi Tarbat,
Could you re-attach or send me that kml file please?....It seems to have gone from the forum posting.
Many thanks,
Ken...
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/wvcnwm.jpg)
You could see all these non pos too !
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Just got PP and MLAT going on my system. However I don't run 4.03 or 3D version of RDB. Can I run 4.03 in 2d mode and get the MLAT on the RDB Screen.
Can I get this plots on the Standard RDB 3.13 style screen? More used to this style of presentation rather than GE.
Thanks
Graham
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Just got PP and MLAT going on my system. However I don't run 4.03 or 3D version of RDB. Can I run 4.03 in 2d mode and get the MLAT on the RDB Screen.
Also how do you get the screen display that Satcom is using. More used to this style of presentation rather than GE.
Thanks
Graham
Hi Graham
Unfortunately you can't display multilateration on your RB screen and the Radar Box cant provide the necessary raw data to act as an Mlat ground station.
You can however run PP Mlat on PP itself and to create the type of outline mapping you see in the image above the best way is to download the Kinetic Resouces disk and use that to load outline files into you PP chart folder.
Then press the outline button on PP to create the mapping.
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Hi Satcom
As I posted I realised you screenshot was the PP screen. I have PP running with MLAT at the moment. I was hoping to use Tarbats method to get the info on the RDB screen but without having the GE style display. At the moment I run both and switch between the two system
Graham
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Hi Satcom
As I posted I realised you screenshot was the PP screen. I have PP running with MLAT at the moment. I was hoping to use Tarbats method to get the info on the RDB screen but without having the GE style display. At the moment I run both and switch between the two system
Graham
Ahh right....
No thats not possible I'm afraid other than the way Tarbat demonstrated it....although of course you can feed your own RB traffic into PP so that both appear on the Planeplotter screen which can then be set to outline mode with RB running in the background.
By then switching on the PP hypersharing function , which you have as a Master User all plots around the selected a/c will then update every few seoconds instead of once every minute.
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yep got RDB pushing data into the PP screen. Now struggling to get waypoints Airfields VOR's and NDB in to the outline view I'm using. Got the SBS resources but don't know if I can overlay or need to create ones own outline. Maybe if you know you can PM me as this is getting more PP than RDB.
Graham
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" Maybe if you know you can PM me as this is getting more PP than RDB."
Yep , if you can pop up on the PP Yahoo group we can sort out the Waypoint issue
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What we need is for Radarbox to be able to read the Planeplotter OLE/COM interface, then we could display everything from Planeplotter on the Radarbox screen.
How about it Airnav? That would go some way towards providing Multilateration within the Radarbox software.
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What we need is for Radarbox to be able to read the Planeplotter OLE/COM interface, then we could display everything from Planeplotter on the Radarbox screen.
How about it Airnav? That would go some way towards providing Multilateration within the Radarbox software.
We should wait to see what this week's "Important Announcement" is about - for all we know, it could be AirNav's launch of their own MLat solution which, we're told, will be a considerable improvement on PlanePlotter's implementation.
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Good luck Chris, have PM'd you.
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Thanks Jon, Andrew and Claire (and others) - much appreciated.
In reply to MikeC on the other forum, where I'm still banned.
Without the agreement of COAA this would be in violation of the PP Licence - Data received from the Internet sharing system must not be published or distributed in any form.
As long as the data was only displayed on the Radarbox display, and NOT uploaded to the Airnav network, this would NOT be in violation of the PP licence. Unless I've misunderstood something?
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Unfortunately I cannot use this feature. I took the 21 day Multi lat trial and I consistatly got the message Multi lat is not enabled. Unfortunately the problem was never solved. So I am not paying for something that does not work.
If this is Air Nav's announcement, I wish you the very best of luck.
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" Unfortunately I cannot use this feature. I took the 21 day Multi lat trial and I consistatly got the message Multi lat is not enabled. Unfortunately the problem was never solved. So I am not paying for something that does not work.
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Very strange...there are 356 mlat approved Ground station systems of which over 200 have been active at any on time. Plus dozens more Radar Box users who receive and use Mlat.
Perhaps you didnt understand the set up instructions
As for it working...well everything you see below apart from the last couple of frames , which shows "all traffic" are non positional a/c.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/ne8ax4.gif)
PP welcomes Radar Box users....you dont even have to share your own traffic if you don't want to and as a Master User you can now use the Hyper Sharing feature too.
PP/Mlat isnt competition...its an add on.
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satcom
You must have had it set up incorrectly as I find PP the most influential add on I have found. Flybe, Loganair, bizz jets, military everything you have always wanted to see on your radar is now on my screen.
Try it again.
Mike P
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satcom
You must have had it set up incorrectly as I find PP the most influential add on I have found. Flybe, Loganair, bizz jets, military everything you have always wanted to see on your radar is now on my screen.
Try it again.
Mike P
Hi Mike
Thanks for the complimentary report. Raflec is the one who had the probs....I'm the one who looks after the Mlat Network.....and I agree , he must have had some sort of probs with set up....and of course if he was using an unregistered version of PP , then he wouldnt have seen anything.
Anyway , glad you find it useful yourself :O)
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Hello Satcom,
Sorry I was maybe misleading you in my previous post.
It is not working on my computer and could not be solved is what I was saying, not that the software as whole does not work.
Yes Planeplotter is registered and works absolutely fine.
Multi lat was as far as I know set up correctly, (but obviously not) but from day 1 Igot the same message multi lat is not enabled in a red warning rectangular box.
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It has to be enabled by COAA or me as part of the security routine.
By all means pm me and I can check for you
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I have been enjoying multilateration in PP for the last few weeks and think it is fantastic.
Can the AirNav team give us an update on where they are in bringing Mlat into ANRB? It would transform the product.
Thanks