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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: Tramline on September 21, 2023, 03:17:04 PM
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Hi, long time since I've posted but been using RB constantly without issue.
I've got a Micro Radarbox dongle and antenna in my possession still in its packaging, but before I plug it in can those with more knowledge and tech savvy confirm is it simply a case of plugging in the dongle, attaching the antenna and bingo,it works off the bat straightaway with the main RB software running or will i have to download any extra software to get it to work?
Many thanks,
Paul
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Paul
You will need to download and install the driver package for the stick from here
https://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/Drivers/microRadarbox-Drivers-20150411.exe
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Many thanks for the reply, I assume the drivers will locate to the correct folders automatically?
Cheers,
Paul
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They should indeed. You can also you Zadig drivers
Alan
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Hi Alan, hope you can help with getting the micro RB up and running.
1. I plugged in the dongle
2. Downloaded drivers as per your link
3. Filled in my details reqd by AirNav site and went to download but next thing it said it was complete despite no obvious wizard installation button to click.
4. I'm not seeing any desktop icons or radar.
5. I'm bemused by it all.
What should I be doing? I'm assuming the plug in dongle would feed by already installed Radarbox system or should I be seeing a stand alone micro radarbox installation with its own icons on the desktop?
As stated i didnt get an obvious wizard button to download it just went straight to complete.
I've not done a restart.
Any thoughts please?
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Hi Alan, this is a screenshot of the installation program
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Paul
I have no idea what that is you are trying to install butI assume that you already have the V6 software on your computer that you used with an original radarbox, am I correct in that assumption.
If that is correct you dont need to do anything else other than install the drivers for the stick and using the V6 software you log in just as you always did using the same log in details as you always did
Alan
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Ah, that might be the issue, the RB version I have is V5. Can I simply upgrade from V5 to V6 without any problem with my current setup then I’ll try and install the micro RB?
How can I refresh my AirNav version? I assume the drivers would remain the same as V5?
Appreciate your help and advice Alan,
Many thanks
Paul
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Paul
I suggest that you delete V5 from the computer. Once the automcatic deletion is done go into your computer and manually delete all Airnav folders after saving on folders like MyLog/logos etc for copying back when you have installed V6
Download and install V6 from http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB60002Setup.exe Install to c:\Airnav not to the program files location probably suggested by the installer.
Install the drivers from https://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/Drivers/microRadarbox-Drivers-20150411.exe or Zadig and you should be good to go using the log in details you used with V5
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Many thanks, I’ll have a go at uninstalling V5 and copying those files before installing V6, my only fear is losing a working V5 and being left in limbo with nothing if with my limited IT ability I cannot get V6 to install and run!
I’ll let you know how I get on…
Thanks again,
Paul
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That being the case Paul, leave V5 and install V6 and see how it goes
Alan
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Thanks Alan, I’ll give the V6 download a go and let you know the outcome.
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Hi Alan, I downloaded and installed V6 over the already installed V5 without issue followed by the drivers required for the MicroRB and it’s working perfectly!
Great system so far. I only have one question, the antenna and stick combo is obviously a dedicated setup with its plug in connector - is there any other compatible antenna which may give even better results or range that is available?
Very pleased with this AirNav product!
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Paul
The Airnav Flightstick has the same antenna connection of the original radarbox.
Also I believe you will be able to find on google a connector which would enable you to connect the micro RB to your existing antenna you used with V5
Alan
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Hi Alan, my original RB has a SMA screw connector to the aerial whereas my Flightstick has a very different plug in connector but I don’t know what this type of connector is called?
I’d be interested in such a connector from the flightstick to allow a SMA connector aerial but I’m not sure what name connector I’d need- “?? to SMA”
Thanks for your help and support,
Paul
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The Radarbox FlightStick has SMA Female connector. Please see photo below.
Which Flightstick do you have which has "very different connector"?
(https://cdn.radarbox.com/blog/FlightStick/flightstick_adsb_2.png)
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Hi abcd567, it’s an AirNav MicroRB stick which I purchased in 2020 but only installed yesterday. It must be a discontinued product and superseded by the Green Stick you posted.
My Micro stick has a smaller push aerial connector that fits into the micro stick. It works pretty well but I reckon it may be a standalone stick/aerial combo?
I’ve just installed V6 AirNav - I assume if I bought the Greenstick it would literally plug-in and play as I installed the drivers as per Alan’s posts earlier?
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Paul
The green flighstick 1090 has an SMA connector for the antenna see https://www.radarbox.com/flightstick1090
I presume you have an original Micro RB stick
Alan
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I think you have the one shown in attachment-1 (Click on it to enlarge)
This one has a mcx connector (see attachment-2)
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Please see attched photo for adapter sma to mcx
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003914186507.html
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Yes, that’s the stick! And of course the connector! Thank you for taking the time to post and show the connectors to allow a SMA aerial to be fitted.
Out of interest, is it worth buying the Green stick compared to the old version of Microstick? Having V6 installed and the drivers that run the older microstick would that mean the Green stick would simply be a plug-in and away it goes?
Any thoughts or views?
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I have used them both, not really much between them but the flightstick allows my to connect my big antenna to it. At the price its a no brainer even if its went up a bit since I bought mines/
Thr micro and flightstcks both use the same drivers so should only be a matter of plugging it in and away you go
Alan
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The green Flightstick has 3 things different from black microRadar stick
(1) Antenna connectors are different. This problem can easily be solved by purchasing an sma to mcx adaptor for less than $3, free shipping, no VAT (please see link to Aliexpress in my previous post)
(2) Green flightstick has builtin filter chip, the black micro does not have. The filter improves performance by blocking Cell/mobile signals particularly in urban areas. Very strong RF signals from Cell phone towees can overload dongle and make it deaf to comparatively weak signals from aircrafr. The filter removes the strong Cellular signals. Please see the thread "Do I Need a Filter"
Do I Need A Filter? (https://forum.radarbox24.com/index.php?topic=10691)
(3) The green flightstick has a builtin LNA (Low Noise Amplifier), the black micro stick does not have any LNA. The LNA amplifies weak RF signals from faraway aircraft which are otherwise so weak they are below the noise floor, and wont be processed. This amplification increases the range.
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Thank you to you and Alan for responding, I think getting the Green Flight Stick is the way to go plus the sma/mcx connector for the black microstick.
Very much appreciate the time taken to respond to my questions and the advice given.
Cheers
Paul
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Please see the thread "Do I need a Filter"
I have now edited my last post and added Link to it so that you dont have to search it. Just click the link.
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I decided to purchase the green Flightstick assuming I could just plug in and it would work straight away as I had just unplugged the previous black microstick, however, my AirNav display shows Hardware: Not Connected with the 🟥 info display.
I’m running V6.01.001 and had downloaded the drivers for the previous black microstick and Alan said they would also work with the Green Flightstick.
I’ve shutdown the computer and restarted but without success - the Green stick is illuminated and my PC recognised it but I assume I’m missing a simple trick.
Any thoughts please?
Many thanks,
Paul
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Paul
It should just work right away Paul but computers are tempremental things.
Try the Zadig drivers https://zadig.akeo.ie/ The RB ones are a variation of them
Makes sur ethat you have the stick showing as per the attached shot as RTL2838UHIDIR to ensure you install the correct drivers then click on Install/Reinstall driver as appropriate. let it do its work and it will tell you once installed
I suggest you then unplug the stick, then plug in the stick again then start up RB and it should work!!
If you go to control panel/Devices and printers on your computer under scrioll doen to Unspecfied you should see your stick there and by going to properties you should see if the drivers are ok
Any issues let me know and I will talk you throught it
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Just downloaded Zadig drivers - or thought I had but no joy. Control panel saying no drivers found.
I've attached a screenshot. I manually entered the RTL2838UHIDIR in top box, the first driver box said (NONE) which I could not edit in any way so I hit install, about 30 seconds later it said Driver installed successfully but apparently not! RB was restarted and again it couldn't find the stick.
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Paul
Please see the post linked below. It gives correct method to setup Zadig:
Is My DVB-T RTL SDR Dongle Healthy? (https://forum.radarbox24.com/index.php?topic=16741.0)
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Ah you cant add it manually, click options/List all devices and on that line you will see all connected devices. Click on the down arrow on the left of the line and you will see all the devices. click on RTL2838UHIDIR and that should brin g up the driver in the left box. You can then click install
Alan
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Hi Alan and abcd567
I've plugged in the dongle and clicked on Device and checked the box but the R2838U does not appear in the list, I've got 6 devices listed;
Bulk-in, interface (interface 0)
HP Wide version HD (interface 0)
Bulk-in, Interface (interface 1)
USB Reciever (Interface 1)
Intel(R) Wireless Bluetooth (R)
USB Receiver (interface 1)
No sign of the dongle though, but its plugged in and lit up?
Any thoughts? Sorry, I thought this was going to be simple! My IT skills are hampered by my dyslexia!
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Phil
Tick Options/Ignore hubs or composite parent and hopefully it will appear
Alan
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Alan,
When I tick options and ignore hubs or composite parent the dongle does not show, just the 6 listed, however, when ignore hubs or composite parents is UNCHECKED I get 9 devices showing one of them being the R2838UHIDIR (Composite Parent) but it shows a different driver so I quickly ignored that - but when checking the ignore hubs composite parent the dongle is not showing!
I’m at a loss… any more thoughts?
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I just plugged in the black microstick and that’s working without any issue….
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when ignore hubs or composite parents is UNCHECKED I get 9 devices showing one of them being the R2838UHIDIR (Composite Parent) but it shows a different driver so I quickly ignored that
Select "R2838UHIDIR (Composite Parent)", do not bother for driver shown, and click "Reinstall Driver".
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Hi abcd567,
Just to clarify, should the driver shown in the left hand box be deleted as it’s different from the one shown on the right hand box?
Just checking before I do anything daft…
Thanks
Paul
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Do not do anything to the drivers shown even if these are different. Just click the box "Reinstall Drivers".
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Hi abcd567,
Thanks for the reply.
I've taken a screenshot of the Zadig driver dashboard. I had a system warning come up asking if I really wanted to change the system drivers?
For the sake of fear of causing problems or conflicts with my computer and other installations I've taken a screenshot and held back from actioning anything.
The button says replace driver? Would the driver it replaces solely affect my RB Green Flightstick? I'm probably being over cautious but I dont have the IT skills as others do to sort out things if they go wrong!
Grateful for any thoughts,
Cheers
Paul
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If it was my computer, I will take the risk and go ahead and click the "replace driver" button.
Since you said you have limited IT skils, I don't want to tell yiu to go ahead and click replace driver button.
Please watch this youtube video. It may help you.
https://youtu.be/LWyswHcE5dU (https://youtu.be/LWyswHcE5dU)
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Paul
Sorry I had to leave the thread as I had other matters to take care of
Microsoft believes that their drivers are better than anyone elses and you dont need anything else and installing other manufacturers drivers will make it inferior even if the item will not work without them, hence the warning from Windows. Other USB items on your computer will work normally
It used to be that following a windows update that the stick would not work as the update had replaced the driver and we had to reinstall again but it has not occured for a while but if it does do a reinstall
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Thank you again for returning to my somewhat paranoid thread!
So can you confirm I can add that driver listed in the lefthand box for the 2838U (Composite Parent) without issue and then the Greenstick should work without any conflict on my other USB dongles?
My IT skills are very poor and my dyslexia hampers most things - God knows spotting takes it's toll in itself!
Thanks again to you and abcd567
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Paul & Alen
Have you watched the Youtube Video I have linked in my above post?
https://youtu.be/LWyswHcE5dU (https://youtu.be/LWyswHcE5dU)
Please see carefully at 1:28 minutes and 1:39 minutes what presenter's mouse arrow is clicking. I have taken screenshot of these two instances and attaching these below.
Paul:
Please click YES to following Warning:
"You are about to modify a system driver. Are you sure this is what you want?".
This is what is shown in video and I have attached it's screenshot.
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Yes I have seen it thanks, sorry I though what I had stated earlier was clear, I am happy to advise to replace the driver
Alan
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Hi Alan and abcd567,
I'm delighted to say my Green Flightstick is up and running following the installation of the driver as you suggested.
I'm chuffed to bits but it wouldn't have happened without your patient support and guidance.
Thank you very much, once again!
Kind regards,
Paul
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(https://i.postimg.cc/5NX60spB/3-thumbs-up.png)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Glad to know that your Green Flightstick is up and running! (https://i.postimg.cc/MHpcCZ5Q/slightly-smiling-face-30pc.png)
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Well done Paul, easy peasy!!
Alan
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Thanks again for your help and to abcd567 to get me over the line.
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Any time Paul
Alan
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You’re welcome Paul. Glad to help you.
abcd