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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: jonjorobb on July 03, 2009, 07:26:48 PM
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Hi all,
Im currently not using the FTP upload for the simple reason that the .gif does not overwrite, but simply creates a .tmp file instead. every time it should upload, it creates another temp.
Any Ideas why?
Thanks,
Jonjo
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Mine seems to be working OK
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gareth.hicks/Virtual%20Radar.htm (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gareth.hicks/Virtual%20Radar.htm)
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I know most people have theres uploading fine, it seems to be just me :D
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Hi Jonjo Robb
It is likely an issue with the FTP server You are using.
Check with your service provider.
Best regards : Juan
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Hi Jono
I had the same problem. It is with your ISP.
My ISP is Zen internet, in order to solve the problem I had to change over to a cpanel type arrangment wich then allows ftp uploads.
The basic system which I had would not allow automated ftp uploads. Why? I dont know.
All I know is that I had to change over my account to a cpanel and now all is well with the world. Just watch something come along and spoil it!
Andy
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Jonjo Robb
Im currently not using the FTP upload for the simple reason that the .gif does not overwrite, but simply creates a .tmp file instead. every time it should upload, it creates another temp.
I am having the very same problem - I have been talking (Or should I say e-mailing) my ISP, all they tell me is "everything is fine there end" they say they have uploaded a gif file from explorer and that worked ok. they are not being very helpful i think. When I get time I will investigate more, the way the webpage is written etc etc.
But for now I am having the same problem, you are not alone.
Cheers
Andy
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drskeptical
Did they say what cpanel was and can you tell me, is zen anygood as a ISP.
Could be looking for a new one in a month or so.
Andy
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A few of us are using gofreeserve.com successfully, so if you don't mind changing web-page providers, they're worthy a try - and free.
Just setup an account, and create a folder called something like "shot". Then setup in Radarbox is straightforward - username/password/host, and folder path of htdocs/shot
Here's mine - http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/radarbox.htm
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Thanks Mate
Might give that a go, but would have been nice for it to go to my own site.
Andy
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Looking with Wireshark, RB appears to do the following:
STOR _200907040738.tmp
RNFR _200907040738.tmp
RNTO RadarBoxScreenShot.gif
So, if the RNTO doesn't work with your ISP, then you'll get all the TMP files. You'll need to be uploading to a directory that has the correct permisions set for renaming as well.
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tarbat
Thank you, will investigate.
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If you use Wireshark, you should be able to see what error message is returned by your ftp server when the rename fails.
My screenshots directory has the following permissions - rwxr-x--x
And the RadarBoxScreenShot.gif has permissions of rwxr-x---
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thanks mate
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Thanks for all your replies, Will try out some of the above and get back to you :)
Thanks Again,
Jonjo
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I give up! no matter what I do, set file permissions, email my hosting for help (there not being very helpful) etc nothing seems to work :(
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Jonjo -
The system that Tarbet is using must be deleting the old file just prior to the renametp RNTO being actioned.
You may also need to check that you have update permissions on the directory, if the SIP is using a Windows system, as you can have Read + Write but not update on Windows Systems.
Can you manually FTP upload, and replace an existing file, or not??
Can you delete files? These questions may help sort the problem.
There may ned to be some kind of RDEL added to the FTP script, just before the rename!!!
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Yes, I reckon the ftp script should probably be something like:
STOR _200907040738.tmp
DELE RadarBoxScreenShot.gif
RNFR _200907040738.tmp
RNTO RadarBoxScreenShot.gif
But so much depends on what each ftp server allows. Some don't like you renaming a file to the same name as an existing file.
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Yesterday I got a message back from my ISP, saying they had refreshed my account, what ever that means.
The upshot of all this is, my FTP seems to be working ok now.
Andy
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Well I thought my FTP upload was working.
Its keeping running great for about 30 - 40 mins, then nothing.
I do believe there is a bug - I have emptied my radarbox folder on my FTP site and been watching it for about 30 mins and there is nothing being loaded there - which makes me think, is the RB sending the sceenshot after about 30 mins. Is there anyway of checking to see if the RB is sending the screenshot, maybe a port that can be checked.
Andy
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Check in the ANRB Temp folder - you should see 5-minutes worth of screenshots.
You should also see FTP messages appear every minute in the status bar at the bottom of the RB screen. - EDIT: v3.0 beta only.
And use Wireshark to see if ANRB is doing the FTP sends every minute. You'll also be able to see any error messages returned by your FTP provider in Wireshark.
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Hi Andy,
Contact your website supplier as well incase they limit ftp connections after a certain amount of usage per day. The upload function is used by quite a few people and Heathrowcam and they haven't emailed us about such an issue but we will investigate it.
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AirNav Support
I will try what tarbat has surgested and let you now my results. I have spoken to my ISP about this problem, hopefully with them, support and myself and tarbat we can sort it out.
tarbat
Is Wireshark easy to use, to get I assume I just google it.
Cheers
Andy
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Is Wireshark easy to use, to get I assume I just google it.
Not that easy, no, but take a look at http://www.wireshark.org/
If you don't want to try Wireshark, I'm happy test FTP upload to your ISP, but you'd have to divulge your FTP account details to me :(
First check is to see what messages, if any, appear in the status bar at the bottom of the RB screen. You should see FTP started, success, etc. if you're running the v3.0 beta.
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Basic guide to using Wireshark:
- Download and install
- Start
- Start capture on your ethernet interface
- Setup a filter for source or destination = your FTP server (or just filter on FTP)
- Look at results
Example:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3697679108_ae640f83bc_o.jpg)
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tarbat
Yes I have seen the FTP start, success on the status bar, but its not on a regular basis, think I have seen it when RB has just started, possibly a couple of times, but then I don't see it anymore.
At the present I am work, but I will be home about 15.30 - 16.00. I will PM you my FTP account details, then we can set a time for you to try.
Thanks for your help mate.
Andy
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I'm also seem to have some problems with the FTP upload.
I do have my own webserver with a ftp server running. I was using SCWebcam without any problems. Using the buildin ftp upload I only see temp files being created (e.g. 200907121007.tmp). Those files are the size of 0.00 KB.
Harry
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Harry
Just the same as I have been getting. Also when it is working There is also another problem - When you have something in front of the map ( say Mylog or screen saver), it shows this instead of the map - This is in the closed beta version. AirNav do now about it. If anyone want to see what I mean take a look at
http://www.absbta2006.co.uk/airnav_radarbox.htm
You will see my screen saver is covering the map.
Andy
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Jonjo Robb
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Im currently not using the FTP upload for the simple reason that the .gif does not overwrite, but simply creates a .tmp file instead. every time it should upload, it creates another temp.
I am having the very same problem - I have been talking (Or should I say e-mailing) my ISP, all they tell me is "everything is fine there end" they say they have uploaded a gif file from explorer and that worked ok. they are not being very helpful i think. When I get time I will investigate more, the way the webpage is written etc etc.
But for now I am having the same problem, you are not alone.
Cheers
Andy
I have just been doing some testing with my laptop. When using RB on my laptop, I am getting no Temp files being loaded into my Folder on my ISP server. This lead me to believe that there must be a problem with my main computer.
But I also think the RB ftp upload stops working after about 15 mins or so. I started the ftp upload at 17.00, on my website the latest shot is 17.15 and the time on my laptop is now 18.54. There is no Temp files in the folder on my server to stop it loading, I have also looked in the screenshots folder on my laptop and the last one in there is also 17.15.
Has anybody or can someone try and run there FTP for a extended time 20 - 30 mins to see if there is a problem there.
Cheers
Andy
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Has anybody or can someone try and run there FTP for a extended time 20 - 30 mins to see if there is a problem there.
I've run it for many hours without problems. Maybe your FTP provider has an upload limit?
I'll leave it running again tonight.
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Andy, why not try an alternative ftp provider to see whether it's your PC/Radarbox setup or your ftp provider that's causing the problem.
I (and others) use gofreeserve.com successfully.
http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/radarbox.htm
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Thank you mate.
But, should it be loadeding a upto date one in the screen shots folder.
You now mate, I am just trying everything I can think of. I have been speaking to my ISP about the problem and they have never indicated they have a upload limit. I have also been with this ISP about 6 to 7 years and never had a problem when I first had the RB.
I would try a alternative provider, but I am just trying to get it to work within my own website, which I may add was always working before. If I was to use a alternative provider the ftp upload would be away from my main site.
Andy
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tarbat
if you look at your ftp now you are on facebook, covering your map.
Andy
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tarbat
Thank you, I have been watching your site and you have proved your point. I will now have to get onto my ISP.
Thank you again
Andy
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Yes, the wife decided to use Facebook :(
Anyway, it ran for 2 hours uploading fine. I would say that on the previous ftp provider I used (Geocities I think), I used to get exactly the same problems. It would upload for a while, then stop. That was caused by an upload limit.
Just thought it might be worth trying an alternative provider to eliminate your PC setup from the problem.
Good luck!
EDIT: Previous thread about the problems I had with FTP to Geocities - http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1414.msg16009#msg16009
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I've took your advice tarbat and I now have a fully working FTP upload with a site I have created with gofreeserve :) .
Thanks,
Jonjo
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Jonjo Robb
I also took tarbat's advice and I now have a fully working FTP upload with gofreeserve.
www.absbta2009.co.uk
Andy
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http://www.jonjorobb.gofreeserve.com/
Jonjo your link does not work,
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The link works fine for me - can't see any aircraft though at the moment, just the map.