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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on October 11, 2009, 02:28:41 AM
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All the discussion regarding V3.07 Beta should be made in this topic.
We would like to underline one more that this is still a beta version. It means it is a test version to be reviewed by users who will later send us their feedback. Errors are possible.
We have also changed the version to V3.07 to make it clear a few changes to the exe were made.
The following problem has been corrected:
1- Access Violation error in case of some configurations;
The following problems were reported and are still to be corrected:
2- Sort by Distance or some other fields on the MyFlights Grid cause the application to freeze after some time and duplicate entries (happening only to some users);
3- Windows 64 bit Drivers;
A new exe is available (with just point 1 corrected).
You can download the full install from:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/beta/ANRB307BetaSetup.exe
Or just the latest exe from:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/beta/ANRB.exe
Please report any more problems below.
Tks for all your cooperation.
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As a point of the situation the following problems were reported:
1- Sort by Distance or some other fields on the MyFlight Grid cause the application to freeze after some time and duplicate entries (happening only to some users);
I left RB running for a couple of hours sorted by Dist(NM) and had no lockups or duplicates.
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I'm gone and abandoning my Airnav RadarBox. Airnav know why! What a shower!
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Flightchaser: we don't understand where are you trying to go with your comments. We have sent you a personal message and you didn't reply. Now you removed your account to deliberately send messages with false reports to other forums.
1- We locked the two V3.06 topics as we were creating this one to centralize the discussion and keep it organized (so locked topics should be considered as moved to here);
2-When we were uploading the new files you sent a message with an error already reported that we were updating in the first message of this topic.
3- We changed the topic title and removed "Part 2" as it was referring to V3.06.
Hope the situation is clarified.
We really don't understand this kind of actions.
Let's focus on V3.07 to stay on-topic.
Please send us feedback on the Access Violation problem. We have one programmer working this Sunday on the sort/blocking issue.
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V3.07 --
installed and will report any problems, thanks Airnav keep up the good work
--any chance we can have the aircraft list with different colours every second line, so its easier to see, I know this has been a request before, maby in V3.08?
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this problem still present in MYLOG-Reporter: (duplicate entries)
00AFBD SAA 5405 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:11:51
00AFBD SAA AA05 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:09:41
00AFBD SAA AA05 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:12:11
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:08:55
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:09:36
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:11
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:31
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:56
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:12:02
00AFBD SAA054 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:12:03
00AFBD SAA054 J FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:02
00AFBD SAA054 J FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:03
00AFBD SAA054 T FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:09:32
00AFBD SAA05405 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:09:26
00AFBD SAA05405 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:09:27
00AFBD SAA05405 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:22
00AFBD SAA0AA05 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:26
00AFBD SAA0AA05 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:41
00AFBD SAA0AA05 FAJS-FNLU ZS-SBK B744 Untitled (South A... 2009/10/11 10:10:42
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after 1hr of operation the program hangs, the received signals (aircraft) at the bottem right keeps indicating reception of aircraft but no update on the active aicraft list on the main screen.
This problem wasn't present in V3.01
thanks Marc
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I was having trouble with the access violation problem but having installed this version all ok so far will monitor for a while.
Stuart
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Hi Support/ Development,
Thank you!
I installed version 3.07 Beta just now; with the Real-Time Network (20 sec's version!) and ACARS switched on all looks working verry well.
Any problem I will report to you on this.
Please let me know if you still need to be reported with "route-problems" by me. If there is no need anymore, please let me know that as well.
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i caretaker here.new to all this.can you please tell me how i can set the info screen.i set this screen not to show the time .but it going back to show the time.
thanks for all the help you give to us firts timers.thanks
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this problem still present in MYLOG-Reporter: (duplicate entries)
Not a lot Radarbox can do about an aircraft that constantly changes FlightID. The example you provide is a clear case of an aircraft with a constantly changing Flight ID - sorted by time:
10:08:55 SAA054
10:09:26 SAA05405
10:09:27 SAA05405
10:09:32 SAA054 T
10:09:36 SAA054
10:09:41 SAA AA05
10:10:02 SAA054 J
10:10:03 SAA054 J
10:10:11 SAA054
10:10:22 SAA05405
10:10:26 SAA0AA05
10:10:31 SAA054
10:10:41 SAA0AA05
10:10:42 SAA0AA05
10:10:56 SAA054
10:11:51 SAA 5405
10:12:02 SAA054
10:12:03 SAA054
10:12:11 SAA AA05
Everytime a new Flight ID is used, Radarbox records that as a new flight. Nothing wrong with that in my book. Maybe the aircraft needs fixing!!
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As a point of the situation the following problems were reported:
1- Sort by Distance or some other fields on the MyFlight Grid cause the application to freeze after some time and duplicate entries (happening only to some users);
I left RB running for a couple of hours sorted by Dist(NM) and had no lockups or duplicates.
If you read the text cafefully you will see that they haven't corrected that fault yet!
J.
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If you read the text cafefully you will see that they haven't corrected that fault yet!
I've now been running RB v3.07 for 6 or 7 hours sorted on Dist(NM) and have not received any duplicates or lockups, ergo there is no fault on my computer with the software, so as you can see it is not affecting all users (as noted in the original post by AirNav).
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I left RB running for a couple of hours sorted by Dist(NM) and had no lockups or duplicates.
If you read the text cafefully you will see that they haven't corrected that fault yet!
Well, not deliberately, but maybe we'll get lucky! ;-)
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I'm gone and abandoning my Airnav RadarBox. Airnav know why! What a shower!
flightchaser.
Why not try talking to airnav and reading their posts, you seemed committed to running down airnav by flying to the vulture site first.
from pat
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Hi just downloaded 3.07 I will now sort my flights only by distance, this is my normal setting. I will keep you advised if anything happens.
John
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Hi
Further to post 15 above , not complaining hopefully though this will help solve the issue.
I did as i said loaded 3.07 set distance and all went well. I left RB running and went to another aviation site to check on updates for the arrival into Belfast for Sec of State Clinton. I was there about 10 minutes.
Back to Airnav RB and all lights flasing normally messages/sec all changing. If I move the cursor on the map the flight changes to white but the My flights list is frozen, the corresponding aircraft was not selected. Cursour (Red lined square) this time on line 10. As last night if I select another flight on the list cursour does not move. However select any heading on my list and the cursour on line 10 moves to this field.
When I reoaded 3.07 I had 32 flights in my flights and 710 flights recorded in todays log. Just now 11.27 29 flights in my flights, log is 739 aircraft. All lights normal on the box. Select a flight on map it turns white but nothing appears in my flights list.
I tried again to move to another aircraft from the list by clicking one no change of aircraft. My flights list now shows a single flight 47340C flying over belgium Yes i am in my flights. This flight is repeated the full length of the list of my flights.
Just before hitting send 33 flights my flights daily log 758 flights. All lights normal I aircraft still repeated full length of My flights list but it is now 394ceb over the mediterrian ad yes still my flights list selected.
Any ideas????
John
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Downloaded Beta 3.07. At Start all goes well BUT all it does is sit there giving me a yellow box saying hardware checking. Beta 3.06 does not do this nor does 2.0
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Hi ok shutdown and reloaded RB. i am going to run it as it loaded , changing no settings. At 12.06 UTC all lights normal Msg.secs changing as normal Hardware and Real time network lights green. My flights 42 currently todays log now 810 aircrft. selecting aflight by clicking my flights list and or map both working normally.
John
Just as an aside I notice my Ryanair flights no longer have an Airline logo?
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John - assuming the flights have ID's starting RYRn.., I can only assume you have somehow lost your RYR.bmp logo file. They're showing OK for me.
Rod
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Airnav......
I tried an experiment this morning. I cleared the PC ( not reg.) of all Airnav progs. then tested versions 2.0, 3.01 and 3.06.
Each version was individually downloaded, installed, started, set on Distance NM then left running untouched for 30 minutes. The results were:
v2. ran for the full 30 minutes and was still operating normally at end of test.
v3.01 ran for 19 minutes before freezing (figures from Mylog)
v3.06 ran for 20 minutes before freezing (figures from Mylog)
The posting by Canonjohns at 12.38 goes over ground that is very familiar to me. He also says " My flights list now shows a single flight 47340C flying over belgium Yes i am in my flights. This flight is repeated the full length of the list of my flights"
I too have had a MyFlights full of just a single multi-duplicated flight.
Phew! What a relief it's not just me!
Good hunting Airnav.
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bratters,
Yes we know when using the distance in MyFlights problems arrise soon after. The question is why for some people it works fine and for others it doesn't, thats the hard part :)
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Hi Rod I agree I must have overwritten it perhaps, not too worried about it I know I can get it again, thanks.
John
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HI Rod just checked and RYR is in my logos folder, the flight Id's are RYR so not sure what has happend? Anyhow I'll reload the latest logos and see what happens.
John
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Hi All,
Herewith I am reporting you an other variation of possible incorrect flightinformation-lookup.
All the given information looks correct (A/C and flightid) but the combination Aircraft vs flight looks verry strange to me:
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/2009101101.jpg)
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/14453610-11-2009.jpg)
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Thats an intresting one John,
Did anyone pick that up locally? Would be intresting to see what caused that.
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Hi All,
Herewith I am reporting you an other variation of possible incorrect flightinformation-lookup.
All the given information looks correct (A/C and flightid) but the combination Aircraft vs flight looks verry strange to me:
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/2009101101.jpg)
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/14453610-11-2009.jpg)
Oh dear, here we go again ...
SHT13F was operated by G-BUSH/400879
The Virgin B744 G-VROM is 4008F9
Yet again, a single bit difference. Clearly it's a decoding error which seems only to be affecting your box.
Get AirNav to swap it.
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Near EGNT :-
G-EUPJ SHT13F 12625 British Airways Airbus A319-131 2009/10/11 11:09 400879
today
SHT = British Airways - so why was Virgin using this.
Also very strange route for Newcastle to Heathrow - via Penzance????
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Clearly it's a decoding error which seems only to be affecting your box.
DOES IT MATTER IT WAS A NETWORK FLIGHT IN THIS CASE? I ALWAYS THOUGHT NETWORK FLIGHTS COME TO ME VIA WWW FROM THE AIRNAV NETWORK SERVER TO ME AND NOT OVER MY RADARBOX.........
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As I understand the system -
The Aircraft and flight ID's, and locations are decoded by the receiving box, the local box then translates this information into aircraft and route.
The receiving box, somewhere in South or South-West UK seems to have decoded the aircraft Mode-S incorrectly - NOT John,
The flight-ID is another matter, partly as to why it was showing near Portsmouth why even the hold should have been North of Heathrow.
The direction of the flight also looks incorrect for the SHT13 routes!!!
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Maybe i am lucky but so far i hadn't had any problems after downloading updates from airnav , all versions worked without any problems day in day out .
The only change that has to been made very soon (i hope ) is a better verification of the mode s and Reg nr's , specially mil aircraft sometimes have strange data.
( German aircraft from Russian airforce and so on)
I already mentioned this on this forum last Friday but i hope its on the priority list of airnav.
Fred
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The receiving box, somewhere in South or South-West UK seems to have decoded the aircraft Mode-S incorrectly - NOT John,
Thank you for your conclusion! Until this day, and especially after DaveReid's reaction, I thougt I must be the one and only one in the world with an incorrect working RB....
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Hi Airnav,
The message on the 'netwrok' tab regarding double click to make this disappear isn't working. When I double click it takes me to the airnav website.
Have tried closing down, re-booting etc but message still is there.
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi AN, well 3.07 downloaded and installed OK, without any Access Violation messages etc., doesn't want to play with the RB (even having entered the driver location), so I've had enough for now and reverted to the CD Version 2.01 - ah, that's better....................
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Hi, I just installed 3.07 and i am getting the same problems i was having with 3.06. Some not all, maybe 1 in very 5 planes wont show a picture saying none available but when i click on none available it loads it in firefox from airliners.net.
Also the network for real time takes 30 seconds to update. It refreshs on 20 seconds but wont refresh again until it counts down from 20 to 0 and then the clock starts again at 30 and refreshs at 20 which is 30 seconds. Is this when its suppose to update?
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The receiving box, somewhere in South or South-West UK seems to have decoded the aircraft Mode-S incorrectly - NOT John,
The flight-ID is another matter, partly as to why it was showing near Portsmouth why even the hold should have been North of Heathrow.
The direction of the flight also looks incorrect for the SHT13 routes!!!
AFAIK, no-one is suggesting that this is a position decoding bug. The flight that's shown as "SHT13F" is actually Virgin's VIR15 (EGKK-KMCO) and is pretty well where you would expect it to be - my own box lost it over Bridport at 1347z.
I have to admit that I had failed to register that it was a network flight, so it does look like John isn't the only user who has a box that's assigning the wrong Flight IDs to aircraft with codes that are close together ...
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Hi, I just installed 3.07 and i am getting the same problems i was having with 3.06. Some not all, maybe 1 in very 5 planes wont show a picture saying none available but when i click on none available it loads it in firefox from airliners.net.
Also the network for real time takes 30 seconds to update. It refreshs on 20 seconds but wont refresh again until it counts down from 20 to 0 and then the clock starts again at 30 and refreshs at 20 which is 30 seconds. Is this when its suppose to update?
If you are getting the real-time Network counting down from 30 to 0 then I suspect that you are not actually running Beta V3.07.
What does it say if you look at Help > About?
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It says 3.07, which isnt realy a surprise since i just installed it! ;)
I did only download the exe and not the full program. I will download the full program and erase the older version just to make sure im starting from scratch maybe that will cure it.
Any ideas why the all the pictures aren't loading?
thanks anyway
Johnny
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Jonnyb
When you installed the exe file did you have ANRB running. I downloaded the exe file first thing this morning and installed it with no problems before starting ANRB
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Not sure if I have posted in the correct place, but using version 3.06 and have currently got G-KWIN Falcon 2000 operating BA985 EDDT-EGLL !!! That is downsizing. Have also had a Europa operating a BAW service. These are all in Mylog not on the map. Am holding off any more downloads till the situ rectified.
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Not sure if I have posted in the correct place, but using version 3.06 and have currently got G-KWIN Falcon 2000 operating BA985 EDDT-EGLL !!! That is downsizing. Have also had a Europa operating a BAW service. These are all in Mylog not on the map. Am holding off any more downloads till the situ rectified.
Two bits difference this time, but I think we're still on the right track:
G-KWIN 400C12 010000000000110000010010
G-BUSG 400416 010000000000010000010110
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Two bits difference this time, but I think we're still on the right track:
Agreed. But what can Radarbox do about it? Dave, are you absolutely sure the checksum can't be used in frames DF20/DF21?
According to this post, the SBS-1 does checksum calculations - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=38713&highlight=checksum#38713
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In these cases, do the aircraft last long on the screen?
What we are trying to understand is that is it a rare occasion of data corruption due to a bad signal or is it a faulty transponder on the aircraft.
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Thats an intresting one John,
Did anyone pick that up locally? Would be intresting to see what caused that.
Picked it up locally (mid Devon) but checking my log Mode S states 4008F9 G-VROM) but it is showing as both flight nos.SHT13F and VIR15. Saw it coming on the Network and was interested in how it would register. Is this a problem with my box? I will wait for the aircraft to come this way again.
New user who has not updated from V2.01 yet. No way I am going to until everyone (vast majority) is happy. I will see what happens.
Otherwise I am very happy with RB.
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According to this post, the SBS-1 does checksum calculations - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=38713&highlight=checksum#38713
Forget it. Even the SBS-1 doesn't do checksum calculations on non-positional frames - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=28231&highlight=checksum#28231
So, this problem probably got introduced when Radarbox started getting Flight IDs from frames DF20/DF21. There's probably nothing that can be done to detect these errors.
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Installed version 2 out of the box last week - worked fine for me.
Downloaded and installed upgrade to 3.01 (upgrade only NOT full version) - no problems - but lost all data from MyLogs etc.
Have just downloaded FULL version of ANRB307BetaSetup.exe
What is the best way of installing this?
Do I need to remove my working version first?
Also, how do keep my exisiting recorded flights?
Will make a copy of my db3 files while I await a reply.
Many thanks
Chris
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Chris - yes, the db3 files are the ones to preserve and copy into the new 3.07 /Data folder once you've installed it.
Rod
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Chris - yes, the db3 files are the ones to preserve and copy into the new 3.07 /Data folder once you've installed it.
Rod
Thanks for that Rod.
Will back them up - do I need to uninstall existing setup first or can I just overwrite it all?
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Hi.
I have a small problem here. The thing is: I have a NavData.db3 file with have 82125 aircraft. This is my backup file and I always update it first.
I installed v3.07 my NavData.db3 is the one I copied from my backup but the radar isn't able to decode it.
Instead of having a database with 82125 aircraft I have a database with 80113 aircraft.
Whatever I do it seems that i can't overwrite the database by simply copy/paste it. I have to auto-populate it to work.
Running on a LG W1 Pro notebook with 4GB memory, 500GB Hard Drive and Windows Vista Home Premium.
Full Administrator rights enabled as I am the only user on this machine.
PS: Sorry if my English seems confusing, and the using database is the one with 82125 aircraft but 80113 being assumed.
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Manuel Mendes, did you install Radarbox in the default folder (C:\Program Files)? If so, you need to put the databases in Vista's Virtual Store.
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Hi,
It is on the default folder.
By the way where do i find the Virtual Store? I'm having a bit difficulty in finding it.
Thanks for your patience
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Have un-installed my previous setup (Out of the box version 2 with an upgrade only to v3.01)
Re-installed with full download of ANRB307BetaSetup.exe
All running smoothly tonight but seem to have lost my previously recorded data!
Have saved db3 files and thought I'd reintalled them in correct folder...
Seem to have the same problem as Manuel regarding the Virtual Store!
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Simple answer. DON'T accept the default installation folder when using Vista. Install in somewhere else, such as C:\Airnav
Then you avoid all the Virtual Store complications.
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According to this post, the SBS-1 does checksum calculations - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=38713&highlight=checksum#38713
Forget it. Even the SBS-1 doesn't do checksum calculations on non-positional frames - http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=28231&highlight=checksum#28231
So, this problem probably got introduced when Radarbox started getting Flight IDs from frames DF20/DF21. There's probably nothing that can be done to detect these errors.
How about applying a minimum number of received frames from the same ModeS code before displaying anything? Would that work? It would avoid a single frame corruption causing a spurious entry I think.
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got bored with reading the quibbling going on over 1 or 2 flights being tracked out of how may simultaneously, per minute, per hour, per day.
I don't want to come across rude, and yes we are all striving for an A+ product(which IMO we already have) but some of you guys have way tooo much spare time, go and clean the house or something!
Incidentally it might not occur to a lot of folk what a load of other cr*p is affecting the performance of RB on their PCs.
I restored to factory settings my PC after 3 years of continuous running last week, installed 3.06 fresh and the performance & stability is way beyond what it was before the rebuild.
I know thats's not a course available to a lot of peeps, just thought I'd share my experiences. Now where's that hoover.......
OaO
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Airnav - for your information I have finally got MyFlights to stay freeze-free when using Dist(NM).
If I set Dist(NM) in Ascending order it runs fine. When I switch back to Descending order the program freezes again.
Hope this helps you locate the bug.
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I have a new theory about the de-highlighting when selected problem, it seems to me that after some continuous eyeballing that this happens when the aircraft tracked is missed for one or more refresh periods, so in my case a second for the My Flights aircraft and the next refresh for Network Flights.
It's hard to really check this without an indication in the program if this happens, but I am reasonably sure that's what I see.
Also, please can it be arranged so that an explicit click is required to highlight a flight on the map? It can be very difficult to get the cursor off the map without overlapping any other aircraft or its label!
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One more comment.
I have installed the 3.0x betas to a separate directory in all cases. Each time some of my settings have been preserved but others, such as map features shown in particular, have been returned to the defaults. And the Smartview and Custom Legend settings too.
Would be nice if the registry settings could be preserved where doing so does not cause a problem.
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probably nothing that can be done to detect these errors.
I'm not so sure.
We're not talking about just random bit errors here, where one or two distorted bits could result in pretty well any hex code.
Instead, the incorrect code always seems to match that of another aircraft that's airborne simultaneously (cf the F2TH/A320 and VIR/SHT examples above).
Sounds more like a software bug than a simple bit decoding error to me.
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Just installed this new beta and i too are finding the network counting down from 30 secs, to be honest im looking at all the improvements, yet i guess my lack of knowledge with RB still cant notice much from the original install disk that came with it.
Im sure in time i may learn, keep up the good work and perhaps it might pay me to wait for final releases before installing beta's
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dauntless,
If you have downloaded the full version of 3.07 and have a subscription for real time network it will then be 20 seconds.
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Im also found that when RB has been running for a period without internet connection, and I connect to internet to update database, the *new* mode S codes gets updated in the database, and a picture download, however it doesn't update the MYLOG entries?
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Im also found that when RB has been running for a period without internet connection, and I connect to internet to update database, the *new* mode S codes gets updated in the database, and a picture download, however it doesn't update the MYLOG entries?
I've found that I need to do a populate, OK it twice, then close the window. Then after the updating has happened, I reopen MyLog and do one more populate, at this point the missing stuff appears but there are usually aircraft for which some fields are empty because the Navdata doesn't have AT or another field.
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Hi all,ref the one bit eror,I currently have v3.07 running & have the following flight currently on the South Wales airway near Cardiff heading for LHR if someone wants to see if they get the same info,400408 BA 282 G-BNLI B747 squawk 4217,in the line below it in my flights is entry 40040C no flight no G-BNLM same squawk,I do not have network flights,only G-BNLI is showing on the map with the globe symbol,regards Paul.
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Hi All just spotted another one bit error 4CA4ED RYR1BA EI-DPI FL37000 sq 2016, next line 4CA4E9 no flight no EI-DPE FL37000 SQ 2016,Compton area heading S/East,regards Paul.
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Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.
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Hi all,ref the one bit eror,I currently have v3.07 running & have the following flight currently on the South Wales airway near Cardiff heading for LHR if someone wants to see if they get the same info,400408 BA 282 G-BNLI B747 squawk 4217,in the line below it in my flights is entry 40040C no flight no G-BNLM same squawk,I do not have network flights,only G-BNLI is showing on the map with the globe symbol,regards Paul.
G-BNLI landed at EGLL 11:39z as BAW282 with a 4217 squawk; G-BNLM had previously landed 10:53z as BAW284, squawking 1437.
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Hi All just spotted another one bit error 4CA4ED RYR1BA EI-DPI FL37000 sq 2016, next line 4CA4E9 no flight no EI-DPE FL37000 SQ 2016,Compton area heading S/East,regards Paul.
EI-DPI RYR1BA, squawking 2016 11:04-11:24z
EI-DPE RYR2706, squawking 2005 09:39-10:06z
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Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.
G-JEDR BEE83F, squawking 1406 11:35-12:06z
G-JEDT BEE7073, squawking 1141 10:59-11:26z
There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.
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Hi Dave/all,thanks for the reply,have not seen any since previous post ,but interestingly EI-DPI the Ryanair B737 is still showing active but not tracking (no globe) in my flights at 38000ft with no flight no & no sqauwk,regards Paul.
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Hi again,got to go to work soon,but just noticed these all in my flights at the same time,
400B04 BEE532 G-JEDW DH8 SQ 7023
400A04 EXS826 G-CELX B737 SQ 7023
400B84 no fl no G-DBCF A319 SQ 7023
400B44 EXS832 G-CELI B737 SQ 7023
all a few lines apart in the list.Regards Paul.
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Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.
G-JEDR BEE83F, squawking 1406 11:35-12:06z
G-JEDT BEE7073, squawking 1141 10:59-11:26z
There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.
And that ties up with the way that a flight will timeout and when the selection arrow transfers to a new flight there is no update of either photos or distance/bearing etc.
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There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.
But why do some users see this happening a lot, and others (like me) have only ever seen it happen once or twice.
I still think it's down to reception conditions. If it was always the LSB, or the MSB that got substituted, then I would consider a software problem. But sometimes it's bit 2, or bit 3, etc. That suggests corruption of the signal to me, not a software error.
Could be a firmware issue I suppose.
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But why do some users see this happening a lot, and others (like me) have only ever seen it happen once or twice.
Think about it.
In order for this to happen, it would appear that you need to be picking up two aircraft with near-matching hex codes either simultaneously or, possibly, while the second one is in range and before the first one has timed out. I'd suggest that those circumstances are more likely to arise in a high-traffic area than in the north of Scotland, not forgetting that there must be an additional, as yet unidentified, factor which is contributing to the result.
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Note to Airnav, the polar diagram drawing code on 3.07 is still sometimes drawing one or more lines that cross inside the polar diagram edges.
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Hi all, I've given up with 3.07, downloads fine and seems to open up and install OK, but no matter what I try, neither hardware or network flights appear, so I'm having to stick with 2.01, which is still performing brilliantly.
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Simple answer. DON'T accept the default installation folder when using Vista. Install in somewhere else, such as C:\Airnav
Then you avoid all the Virtual Store complications.
Many thanks for that hint Tarbat - followed your advice and saved me a lot of grief!
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dauntless,
If you have downloaded the full version of 3.07 and have a subscription for real time network it will then be 20 seconds.
Hi Air nav
Answer to your points/questions are
Yes
No - Thought the 30 down to 20 was for all
No
So iin view of this would it be possible that i would have to remove 3.06 instead of installing into different directory/folder name.
I must say with my very limited knowledge of RB, the only things i really have noticed in 3.06, is more airports on map. also on your message prompts i noticed the thingy code beside the reg if i remember correctly, however still with all 30 seconds on Network.
Im also getting a lot of Hardware drop out and while using a laptop for my RB, i have tried all pre-installed USB ports and find the Hardware drops and i have to pull the usb out and plug in for RB to get back to normal. By the way there is no set time for this, it random day and night and probably occurs 3-4 times a week with RB running 24/7
Keep up the good work
Andy or AKA Dauntless
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Dauntless
Have you ensured that your USB ports are not set to save power? Again have a look in the hardware manager window for the OS.
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Hi Brian
Thanks for the message, so im completly sure can you advise your way of checking this pleas, then i can say exact facts and work forward to solving the problem.
I did have a update for firewall at 2am and there was a problem there, but i altered that.
Best wishes
Andy
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From reading Dave's and Tarbats messages above, I live in the south east of the UK and regularly show over 140 acft in my log sometimes over 200. when it drops to below 80 I dont get any spuriuos readouts. Could this be the issue the number of flights that Mylog or even RB can decode at any one time?
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Version 3.07 Beta has now been running for over 2 hours on my Vista laptop this evening.
No problems whatsoever - indeed just popped out to watch OO-SSG on BHX to Brussels flight exactly where I expected it to be!
Only problem in ugprading was losing some of my the data from MyLogs. Can live with this - am more interested in watching live data than what I've recorded in the past.
Have re-installed program as per Tarbat's advice - hopefully this should resolve future upgrade problems like this.
Will leave program running (uploading network data) while I watch Masterchef and then download the latest versions of Rod Bearden's excellent logo gifs (Thanks Rod!)
Stock antenna is giving me 20+ flights from downstairs bay window - so will live with that and buy a scanner to listen to what I'm seeing before investing in external antenna.
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Hi Brian
Thanks for the message, so im completly sure can you advise your way of checking this pleas, then i can say exact facts and work forward to solving the problem.
I did have a update for firewall at 2am and there was a problem there, but i altered that.
Best wishes
Andy
Computer->Properties->Device Manager then open the properties of each USB Root Hub, find the power management tab and ensure power management is deselected. Similar in both Vista and XP and probably in Windows 7 too.
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Hi Brian
Thanks for the message, so im completly sure can you advise your way of checking this pleas, then i can say exact facts and work forward to solving the problem.
I did have a update for firewall at 2am and there was a problem there, but i altered that.
Best wishes
Andy
Computer->Properties->Device Manager then open the properties of each USB Root Hub, find the power management tab and ensure power management is deselected. Similar in both Vista and XP and probably in Windows 7 too.
Thought that was the way, as previously i checked all Power managment was unchecked and still is.
Thank you for comfirming though
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Hi all,just got home from work & got another one bit error at 2310,quiet period,only 28 aircraft in my flights as opposed to about 180 when I got the others earlier today:-
4009BC EXS208 G-CELV B737 SQ 0042,next line
4009B4 no flight no G-GMPB BN2T SQ 0042, both showing 6000ft alt.
Regards Paul.
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Hi all,another one bit error but with a slight difference
4BBC2C OHY438 TC-OAL A321 SQ 1155
4BBC2E OHY622 TC-OAN A321 SQ1155
but this time both were showing on my map at the same time (with globe symbols) TC-OAL was over London hdg for Dover while TC-OAN was over Manchester hdg for Skegness\Dolas.TC-OAL then timed out (just on edge of my coverage)leaving the other one still up north on the map.So just to try to confirm both flights had been where they said they were,fired up planeplotter & sure enough TC-OAL was showing over dover hdg into europe but now squawking 5230 & TC-OAN still on track for Skegness sqawk 1155.Off to bed,regards Paul.
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Hi all,latest one bit error seen,again slight variation in as much this time same flight no for both a\craft and also some 20 lines apart in my flights list rather than consecutive lines or a couple of lines apart:-
4008A5 TCX618K G-JMCG B757 sq2206
400CA5 TCX618K G-WOWD DH8 sq2206
only the B757 on the map with globe as Air Southwest dont track as per Flybe etc.
Won`t post anymore for now as think you have got enough examples,should you need anymore let me know will then post for you.Regards Paul.
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We would like to underline one more that this is still a beta version. It means it is a test version to be reviewed by users who will later send us their feedback.
I have installed 3.06 on an old PC, while retaining out of the box 2.01, on my main Windows PC. I have not copied any existing files to the new 3.06 installation.
Now retired and after about 45 years, I'm taking up my old interest in aircraft spotting!
1. There is now a problem with the Selected Flight on the map. It losses selection.
This is not the existing 2.01 bug, whereby fast passing the mouse cursor over the map, causes the Selected Flight to change.
2. Last night (@01:01z) I had only 2 aircraft in Myflights list, OY-BTZ and OO-DPO. The Selected Flight was the former, but G-OBYE details were displayed to the right of the two pictures.
Earlier I had a couple of Westland helis showing with the same Flight ID. As they often fly in pairs past my window, do they use the same Flight ID or is this a bug?
3. I now have ZJ168 in my list and pictures of a Westland WAH-64D. The Flight ID is RRR1213. I would have thought that this ID is for a passenger transport in/out of BZN.
I hope this feedback is helpful.
Reg
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I now have ZJ168 in my list and pictures of a Westland WAH-64D. The Flight ID is RRR1213. I would have thought that this ID is for a passenger transport in/out of BZN.
It is.
RRR1213 is Agusta A109 ZR321, which the AirNav server wrongly identifies as Apache ZJ168.
If you ever pick up its stablemate ZR323, you'll find that also gets misidentified as an AH-64.
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dauntless,
If you have downloaded the full version of 3.07 and have a subscription for real time network it will then be 20 seconds.
Hi Air nav
Answer to your points/questions are
Yes
No - Thought the 30 down to 20 was for all
No
So iin view of this would it be possible that i would have to remove 3.06 instead of installing into different directory/folder name.
I must say with my very limited knowledge of RB, the only things i really have noticed in 3.06, is more airports on map. also on your message prompts i noticed the thingy code beside the reg if i remember correctly, however still with all 30 seconds on Network.
Im also getting a lot of Hardware drop out and while using a laptop for my RB, i have tried all pre-installed USB ports and find the Hardware drops and i have to pull the usb out and plug in for RB to get back to normal. By the way there is no set time for this, it random day and night and probably occurs 3-4 times a week with RB running 24/7
Keep up the good work
Andy or AKA Dauntless
Instead of physically disconnecting the hardware, you can use the MS utility 'devcon' to disable/enable the USB device. I have this running as a scheduled job so if I'm away from the PC, I know it will be 're-connected' say, every hour.
It can be a bit tricky finding the right deviceID but when you do it works a treat.
The disconnects I grant you, are still annoying though.
(This performs the same task as disabling/enabling the device in Device Manager, only programatically)
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Can you (Airnav) reduce this space?
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No, you can't reduce the size of the column, but you can switch it off using the Preferences.
One of the requests on the 'wish list' is for AirNav to allow the column order to be changed, but I can't remember a request to make the columns resizeable?
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Hi, just tried a clean install of the 3.07 on my PC, Vista 64 ! and suprise suprise it still does not work. I am now running out of patience with this. I have tried to tried to install the new drivers but to no avail.
Bearing in mind I bought the radar box to run on my pc over a year ago, I am still using it on my old lap top. My subscription has run out but I am not going to resubscribe until the Vista 64 problem gets sorted. Any further advice please ???
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I assume you've tried F8 at startup, or EasyBCD? Both solutions should enable you to install the drivers in Vista64. It's worked okay for other Vista64 users.
EasyBCD is the best option, and it's used and recommended by Microsoft.
http://www.vistax64.com/drivers/147955-disable-driver-signing-enforcement-vista64.html
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Hi Tarbat, yes I have tried both methods but no success. Please keep the suggestions coming !!
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Hi Tarbat, yes I have tried both methods but no success. Please keep the suggestions coming !!
What's the symptoms? EasyBCD definately works, and let's you disable the need for signed drivers. What error messages?
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Ok, I will try this again. The error message is CODE 23. Thanks
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Ok, I will try this again. The error message is CODE 23. Thanks
Found this, no idea if it works or not:
Final solution, no F8 needed.
"If you want to be able to use the driver all the time without having to
use f8 on every reboot then run this command at an elevated command prompt
Bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING ON
you should get operation completed successfully
no need for f8 any more"
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Thank you all for your advice... I now have the radar box working on Vista 64! I tried all the above methods before unsuccesfully but now they work !!! Confused but happy. Thank you all your support.
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Hi guys I recently installed V3.07 and everything was ok, but sometimes when I am looking at the network, my screen goes a transparent white and although I can see the map behind the white I also get the message (Not Responding) on the top LH side of the screen, after a few seconds the software finds the aircraft I am looking for and resumes a normal screen, as anyone else had this problem or is a new V3.07 problem?
Thanks Michael
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Just for the hell of it, as the lap-top seems to be behaving itself, downloaded 3.07 yet again, installed, started and running (with all preferences as set in 2.01) well.
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Hi guys can anyone add to my original question please.
Thanks Michael
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It does sound weird vassylad. Is there a specific time it happens or a series of events that it takes for it to happen or just random?
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My Vista PC does the translucent white thing and "not responding" sometimes. After a few seconds it is fine. I was assuming that other s/w, maybe anti-virus could have been the cause, so haven't worried about it too much.
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Hi good morning support, no there is no specific time or reason I can think of, I will keep on monitoring it and report back..
Michael
It does sound weird vassylad. Is there a specific time it happens or a series of events that it takes for it to happen or just random?
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Hi, just a query. Have been operational on the box for about a month now. All works well as does the update to version 3 Beta. Only one niggle. Preferences is the niggle! Both on the original version and the 3 Beta i only get about half the preference page - adjustment is not possible and i dont get far enough down to press the `apply` button. Am using a dell530s with 3 gigs of ram at 3Ghz with radion 256. To spell it out more simply, i get an unadjustable Preferences - about two thirds of screen - and no matter what resolution etc etc i try it remains the same as well it should. There is no way to get the full Preferences page. I`d send you a picture if i could find a way of doing it and no doubt that would help. Have been on computers quite a while and have never had this problem before. However, it is running that ghastly Vista Home so.......................i rest my case. Any ideas? Regards and 73s, Roger
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What screen resolutions have you tried?
Are you using a non-standard (large) Windows font?
A full-screen shot would be good if you can do it - press the keyboard PrintScreen key to copy the screen to the windows clipboard, then past it into your favourite graphics package. Save it as a jpg file and attach to your reply here on the forum.
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Hi Roger,
I know that screens are getting wider and therefore the height is reducing for the same screen size, but did not think they'd gone that far!
Have you set in Vista the screen resolution to the correct settings for the monitor?
I know that in Vista the screen's properties are now called a different name and made difficult to find. Mine is set to 1280 x 1024, so therefore I have a screen that is more square than the normal 4:3 ratio.
Possibly the ANRB preferences are a fixed pixel size and your screen height in pixels is too small.
Also new to ANRB having bought mine at the Hamfest at Newark.
73, Reg
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Hi there again, yes, you`re quite right - i had the print on screen at large - i think senilty is catching up with me. I can`t remember setting it to large size and i`ve had the Vista system for a year. Very many thanks for your interest and solution to the problem. I`ll have to get a better quality of meths - either that or the boot polish has gone hard!! Bi now and many thanks again from a - for once - sunn y Yorkshire. 73s Roger
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Roger, I'm pleased that you are sorted out!
Keep asking those questions, with all the new RB users coming on line, that learning circle needs to keep going around :-)
Have you looked at the RB video tutorials on the AirNav site and on YouTube?
http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox/video/
http://www.youtube.com/user/AirNavTeam
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Good afternoon,
Is it possible to do something in future versions for this (see attachment) does not happen?
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You can left click and drag the divider between the list and the map so that you can see what you like.
You can also choose to only show (download) one thumbnail picture using Preferences.
With my big 22 inch wide-screen monitor I have the map sized so that I can see the "ADS-B Only" button, but on the 15 inch laptop I hide this and have the "Show All" button showing.
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Hello Allocator, and if I want to continue to have two pictures?! I think that should solve the problem! As was done in the bar Myflights, Network, etc ...
I think that we should not solve problems by avoiding them, but solving them.
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Aerotower - what would your solution be?
Rod
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Aerotower - what would your solution be?
Rod
Hi Rod, this small solution ... see attachement.
Regards
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Do you mean those buttons would scroll the whole grid area? Interesting idea.
Development will be watching this thread....
Rod
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Do you mean those buttons would scroll the whole grid area? Interesting idea.
Development will be watching this thread....
Rod
Yes, these buttons
Best Regards
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Aerotower - what would your solution be?
Rod
The whole main screen layout needs a complete overhaul.
It looks like a quick hash-up for an early release of a program at say V-0.5x and not a version 2.01 of an expensive program.
But the same is seen on 3.06b and I understand 3.07b is unchanged.
The hardware and software does what I bought it for, so in that respect I'm happy. But I find the poor screen interface very annoying.
Reg.
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Morning all, yes, have checked the tutorials and ceertainly they were helpful. System has been running with the v3 Beta for 24 hours without fault so all well. Being a radio ham, one factor has become a source of some amusement on the air. Several of us use 23 cems which is the lowest mircrowave band at 1296Mhz so is close to 1090Mhz. We`ve found that radarbox gives us a rough indication of the flow and ebb of propogation at frequencies above 1 Gig although it correlates propogation at high altitudes rather than roughly line of sight - interesting though. Have a good day all. 73s Roger
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Problem with Polar Diagram...
Since subscribing to the real time network & v3.07 I am finding that my polar diagram is picking up not only 'my flights' but also some network flights too, some up to 300nm away! I have tried resetting but with the same results.
Any ideas anyone or is this a bug?
Dave
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Any ideas anyone or is this a bug?
It's a known bug that a couple of beta testers have reported to Airnav.
And just in case other bug reports have got lost in emails to A:
"..." being populated in AT field
MyLog start date/time anomolies when PC has been in hibernation
Squawk code missing on 7879 port output
When only a single aircraft in list, photo/details can be a random aircraft
Need to clarify how to set a default colour scheme
Need to clarify how to set a default map setup
Need to increase the resolution of standard coastline. Even more relevant to ShipTrax.
Polar chart errors when using real-time network
Sorting of MyLog goes random if you click on a flight
Uninstall doesn't clear all registry entries
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I detected a problem with the Network (see attachment)
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Problem on report generate
"Generated at 2009-10-23 00:00:00 UTC
Valid for 2009-10-23
596 Flights Logged"
what should be written was VALID FOR 2009-10-22
Correct this please Airnav.
Thanks
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hi all, i'm shure this has been reported before, but can't find it, so i'll bring it on again, as i find this rather anoying ;
more and more, i get wrong info for the planes i select on the map : the flight i get in the list has nothing to do with the one i select on the map + wrong picture.
attached is a screenshot of what i mean
i notice this error only when real-time network is on ( had it already before i had real-time) and it takes several re-clicking on the map and list, before the right combination is shown.
i even somethimes have a A spot on the map, with B a different plane in the list, and C ... a picture that has nothing to do with neighther of them.
by the time i had hit the printsreen button to take this screenshot, the selected flight had already turned from whitr in to blue.
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Yep vonsmal, quite a few of us see this, Airnav are aware of the problem and are working on a fix.
Who knows, by now maybe they have one and are testing it internally!
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ok, good to know it is a known problem, and work on it is in progres :-)
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Hi All
Had problems with my XP install with 3.07 and 3.06. Kept hanging PC after 10 mins or so. So I've started up using Win7 64bit Having installed 3.07 from scratch in a dir of the root the software doesn't seem to have installed the USB drivers and sw can't find the hardware. What have I missed?
Thanks
Graham
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We need to reproduce the problem reported at our development computers. Does anyone of you have a simple way of reproducing it? The good news is that all the other problems reported by Tarbat are now corrected.
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We need to reproduce the problem reported at our development computers. Does anyone of you have a simple way of reproducing it? The good news is that all the other problems reported by Tarbat are now corrected.
Which problem do you need to know how to reproduce? And which problems that Tarbat reported are cured? I'm asking because Tarbat said he didn't suffer from the flights sorting, freezing and de-highlighting that some of the rest of us see.
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The flights sorting problem is corrected and tested now.
We need to reproduce the last problem reported above:
"more and more, i get wrong info for the planes i select on the map : the flight i get in the list has nothing to do with the one i select on the map + wrong picture."
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Airnav - can I add to the list, if it is not already on it, the when working split screen and moving RB to screen 2, when going full screen (Esc) there is no way of going back. Nothing happens when pressing Esc.
J.
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I have just proved myself wrong! - Sorry! - It sometimes doesn't work.
J.
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Hi
had similar problem under 64 bit Windows 7 only solution I found was during computer boot press F8 until you come to a screen with options one of which is to disable driver signature enforcement this worked for me but you have to do this every time you start the computer.
regards
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We need to reproduce the last problem reported above:
"more and more, i get wrong info for the planes i select on the map : the flight i get in the list has nothing to do with the one i select on the map + wrong picture."
AIRNAV
We both face the same problem Airnav. You can't make it happen and we can't stop it happening!
Here is a more detailed description of how it occurs:
1. We highlight Ft.A on the map.
2. Ft.A appears highlighted on the grid and the photo & details appear.
then with NO cursor movement
3. the highlight indication disappears from Ft. A on the map although the flight itself remains. Another flight may or may not be automatically highlighted immediately.
4. Ft.A and its details still remain highlighted on the grid.
5. Ft. B is suddenly (randomly) highlighted on the map - but the grid continues to show Ft. A.
6. Ft.B de-highlights itself on map and Ft. C is then highlighted.
7. This process can continue for some time with numerous flights on the map highlighting and de-highlighting at random without apparent proximity, without any apparent numerical connection, without consistent timing of highlighting and without cursor use.
7. On the grid however Ft. A will remain highlighted regardless of all activity on the map until Ft.A times out.
8. Upon timeout on the grid, the grid will resume with displaying whatever flight is currently highlighted on the map.
It seems that the map suddenly breaks connection with the grid for no apparent reason and sets off on a random course of selecting and deselecting. There are times when no flights are selected on the map but never two or more simultaneously.
Throughout this, the grid behaves as it should, holding the originally selected flight until timeout.
Normal service resumes when the grid loses its selected flight and assumes another.
Then the problems start again. Intervention with the cursor will restore operations.
Hope this helps.
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where is the google earth interface on the beta ?
cheers
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where is the google earth interface on the beta ?
cheers
There isn't one, this is not a beta of the 3D version.
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Hi posted the bit below yesterday in a new post, but perhaps it belongs here? Same thing happening today with the same registration!!/
Hi on my log from yesterday, a portion below, which shows a registration 163310 USA Marines C130 repeated against various aircraft? Any idea wat is the cause I noticed this on Thursday also with the same registration.
John
398567 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 05:40:01
398567 RAE556 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 09:23:04
398567 RAE560 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 19:31:55
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 09:34:37
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 13:11:53
405D0D EZY5UB EGGW-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 15:32:47
405D0D EZY66KG EGAA-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 07:09:26
405D0D EZY6939 EGPH-EPKK 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 08:53:55
405D0D EZY695F EGPH-LFPG 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 17:15:32
405D0D EZY73WU EGPH-EGAA 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 06:02:27
405D0D EZY956V LFPG-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 20:33:19
405EE1 SHT13E EGNT-EGLL 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 08:25:48
405EE1 SHT18H EGLL-EGPD 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 20:15:20
405EE1 SHT8C EGLL-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 16:05:19
405EE1 SHT9Y EGPH-EGLL 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 17:47:59
4060A4 BEE663E EGBB-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 19:11:36
4060A4 BEE7066 EGPH-EGBB 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 20:41:50
43C439 RFR 7043 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 09:53:04
43C5C8 ZF622 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 09:29:04
43E71D 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 07:54:03
43E75E 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 07:49:49
4CA6FF RYR9884 EGGP-EGAE 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 12:15:20
4CA6FF RYR9885 EGAE-EGGP 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 13:37:41
4CA6FF RYR9885 EGAE-EGGP 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 13:37:42
4CA6FF RYR9EL EGGP-EVRA 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 05:55:00
4CA6FF RYR9J EVRA-EGGP 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 11:04:48
4CA787 HYR900A 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 17:03:25
4CA7AA RYR6128 EGAC-EGSS 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 19:30:00
4CA7AA RYR6129 EGSS-EGAC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 18:14:23
502C58 BTI6A1 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 22:04:05
AE20C3 RCH278 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/23 22:17:01
Hi all
This portion from today same thing.
John
398567 RAE553 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/24 05:44:26
405D0D EZY6921 EGPH-EHAM 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/24 06:20:30
502C58 BTI6A2 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/24 00:32:11
A09727 RCH511 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/24 06:15:15
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I would download another version (or even the same version), set it up in a seperate folder and run it as a testbed.
If it runs OK, your existing version has a glitch and you can ditch it. However if the new version exhibits the same problems, then there's summat up.
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Runs like a dream. And a lot faster menu handling I might add.
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Here is a more detailed description of how it occurs:
Well written bratters. I concur.
Reg.
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Here is a more detailed description of how it occurs:
Well written bratters. I concur.
Reg.
Thanks for the reassurance - let's hope Airnav can make some sense out it.
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Here is a more detailed description of how it occurs:
Well written bratters. I concur.
Reg.
Thanks for the reassurance - let's hope Airnav can make some sense out it.
Bratters,
You are obviously a master at Scrabble. That is exactly what is happening but to be able to put it into words, now that is something else !
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And which problems that Tarbat reported are cured?
I posted a list on the forum - do a search. However due to personal circumstances I've been a bit out of the beta testing loop for the last week.
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We've changed a few emails with bratters and unfortauntely we cannot reproduce this problem on (now) 4 different computers. We would ask for users that have this problem to email me ASAP so we can find a solution for it.
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We've changed a few emails with bratters and unfortauntely we cannot reproduce this problem on (now) 4 different computers. We would ask for users that have this problem to email me ASAP so we can find a solution for it.
Just done that...
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We've changed a few emails with bratters and unfortauntely we cannot reproduce this problem on (now) 4 different computers. We would ask for users that have this problem to email me ASAP so we can find a solution for it.
Airnav - I thought I'd already confirmed I could reproduce this problem - email on the way
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Thanks for the prompt support. We got the emails and one of our programmers will try to replicate the problem here this Monday.
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I do not know if it has been reported this problem, but is not running the option Hide Small Airports. The test was done in the Brazilian airports, because unknown to those of other countries.
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RNAGG - I've never found any airport anywhere in the world that gets hidden by that option - I don't think it's ever worked!
Rod
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It works for US airports. They are the only ones which have a "small airport" option.
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Support - can you plase name a US airport that gets hidden? Just asking out of interest - I've never found any :-)
EDIT - if they are marked by the PM field in the Airports table, all my airports have blank or 0 there.
Rod
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Hi Airnav or anyone, help please.
i still have the attached below occurring daily with this registration 163310 USA Marines. Can anyone firstly advise what is happening and the how do I stop it please?
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 10:15:02
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 14:44:51
401174 GEURT 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 17:24:40
405BFB BAW275 EGLL-KLAS 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 16:47:54
405D0D EZY10HP EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 18:13:42
405D0D EZY10HP EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 20:28:10
405D0D EZY21EJ EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 20:10:14
405D0D EZY21EJ EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 20:10:15
405D0D EZY6906 LSGG-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 12:26:40
405D0D EZY6923 EGPH-EHAM 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 14:26:34
405D0D EZY90VK EGPH-EGGD 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 07:19:56
405D0D EZY924D EHAM-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 16:51:07
405F13 EZY190K 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 15:58:59
4060A4 BEE163 EGNS-EGGW-EGJJ 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 10:19:21
4060A4 BEE340Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 07:11:45
4060A4 BEE348Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 16:28:39
4060A4 BEE350Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 18:50:41
43C295 VTX003 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 13:10:46
43E75E 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 07:41:02
4CA787 HYR900A 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 11:01:46
4CA7AA RYR102 EINN-EGSS 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 06:54:00
4CA7AA RYR13Z EGSS-EINN 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 08:54:21
4D00FB LGL4883 ELLX-EIDW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 12:47:46
4D00FB LGL4884 EIDW-ELLX 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 14:30:18
AE0239 RCH3977 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 08:23:21
AE037E RCH201 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/27 12:27:14
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Why do some larger small airports like KOKV and KJYO show a name and identifier but no runway. There are some other 'airports' that are basically grass strips that do show a runway but no name or identifier. Even KDCA doesn't have a name or identifier.
Where any changes made to the airport data in the recent full beta installs that address this?
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Problems on report
* 4D010C CLX765 LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:38:16
* 4D010C CLX765 LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:43:33
* 4D010C CLX765 LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:44:28
* 4D010C CLX765U LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:43:28
* 4D010C CLX765U LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:44:23
* 4D010C CLX765U LX-WCV B744 Cargolux 2009/10/28 12:44:25
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freqhopping - something must be wrong with your setup - I get runways, names and identifiers for all three of the airports that you mention. I assume that you are getting some airports with all of these showing properly, otherwise I would suggest that your colour scheme is causing the problems.
My only other suggestion is that maybe you could try to do a full install of the system if you only updated the exe file. That might help.
Rod
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I have also seen the issue in my log that Aerotower saw in his log. Here are some samples below. It does not happen all the time. However, when it does occur, it seems to be only for 744 types. Interesting...
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:35:50
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:36:10
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:25
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:29
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:36:04
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:18
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:20
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:25
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/28 01:46:27
3C4AD2 DLH456 EDDF-KLAX D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 12:07:33
3C4AD2 DLH456 EDDF-KLAX D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 12:09:02
3C4AD2 DLH456U EDDF-KLAX D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 12:08:43
3C4AD2 DLH457 KLAX-EDDF D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 15:33:23
3C4AD2 DLH457 KLAX-EDDF D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 15:36:11
3C4AD2 DLH457U KLAX-EDDF D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 15:36:04
3C4AD2 DLH457U KLAX-EDDF D-ABVR B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/24 15:36:09
3C4ADA DLH456 EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:03:00
3C4ADA DLH456 EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:24:49
3C4ADA DLH456 EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:26:19
3C4ADA DLH456U EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:24:43
3C4ADA DLH456U EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:24:45
3C4ADA DLH456U EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:26:15
3C4ADA DLH456U EDDF-KLAX D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 12:26:17
3C4ADA DLH457 KLAX-EDDF D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 15:22:10
3C4ADA DLH457 KLAX-EDDF D-ABVZ B744 Lufthansa 2009/10/21 15:22:12
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 00:49:06
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 00:58:19
856776 JAL6046 RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 01:03:08
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 00:58:19
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 01:03:02
856776 JAL6046U RJAA-KORD JA402J B744 Japan Airlines - ... 2009/10/21 01:03:04
84096B NCA6014 RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:27:22
84096B NCA6014 RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:30:35
84096B NCA6014 RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:30:39
84096B NCA6014U RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:30:33
84096B NCA6014U RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:30:37
84096B NCA6014U RJAA-KLAX JA02KZ B744 Nippon Cargo Airl... 2009/10/20 04:30:39
A6189C QFA7554 KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:09:17
A6189C QFA7554 KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:15:50
A6189C QFA7554 KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:20:02
A6189C QFA7554 KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:25:33
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:15:40
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:15:42
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:19:56
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:19:58
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:25:21
A6189C QFA7554U KJFK-KORD N492MC B744 Atlas Air 2009/10/19 03:25:23
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Steve in Southern California
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Hi Re these duplicated entries can anyone advise if these are a known "bug" and therfore being checked by Airnav and or Beta testers? Or are these and in particular in my case, the US Marine Reg 163310, something I have to sort????
John
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They are not a bug in the software. They are caused by the aircraft sending out incorrect values of there FlightIDs causing RB to think they are different flights.
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Yes, put the above logs into time order and it becomes more obvious that the flight ID is changing back and forth between two or more different strings.
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Please Please please can somebody tell me why this is continuing to happen with this USA Marines flight? I have asked several times and not had a response. is it a known problem? if it is can i fix it? Getting ever more frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 14:21:37
3CE119 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 19:52:18
405BFD BAW274 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 13:28:50
405D0D EZY10HP EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 18:13:18
405D0D EZY6906 LSGG-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 12:34:26
405D0D EZY6923 EGPH-EHAM 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 14:21:53
405D0D EZY90VK EGPH-EGGD 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 07:15:21
405D0D EZY924D EHAM-EGPH 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 16:53:25
4060A4 BEE163 EGNS-EGGW-EGJJ 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 10:22:15
4060A4 BEE340Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 07:15:01
4060A4 BEE348Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 16:24:31
4060A4 BEE350Y EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 18:55:04
4060A4 BEE816 EGNS-EGCC 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 13:47:04
43E75E 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 07:49:49
4CA7AA RYR102 EINN-EGSS 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 06:55:18
4CA7AA RYR13Z EGSS-EINN 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 09:23:10
4CA7AA RYR732 EGPK-EINN 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 15:26:23
4CA7AA RYR733 EINN-EGPK 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 14:14:49
502C58 BTI6A2 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 01:20:21
896168 UAE203 OMDB-KJFK 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 05:25:54
AA9D3C SOO600 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/30 15:45:10
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I've never seen anything like this. How are you generating the report? Is this the standard report in ANRB, or something created with SQL?
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Hi Tarbat thanks for the response. It is the standard Airnav report. I click reporter get the my log screen and there it is. It happened a few days ago and wont go away. i'm not noticing anything else "wrong" and it is always the same aircraft details. Both photographs poulate and it is the C130??
Boy is it frustrating. Any thoughts very welcome.
John
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Might indicate a corrupted MyLog database. I've never seen so many FlightIDs assigned to the same aircraft like this.
I'd be tempted to try clearing down the old flights and see if the problem goes away. MyLog - Tools - Delete Old Data
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Canonjohns40D, my suggestion would be to look up 163310 in Database Explorer and see if there is any thing odd in any of its fields. And then even if there isn't, delete it and see what happens. Maybe some other aircraft reg and op will take its place in you log. Only one way to find out.
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Cannonjohns - did you try my suggestion of running a parallel test prog?
Tarbat's corrupted database seems logical.
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Hi Tarbat, Freqhopping and Bratters and thanks for taking the time to assist.
Right checked in the database and 163310 looked no different than the other entries around it. It does now as i deleted it. I then deleted the old data as you suggested Tarbat.
Sorry bratters I saw your post and being a bit of a numpty with computers bottled it. I'll try the other two options for now and monitor the situation.
If it returns later tonight or tomorrow I'll try your suggestion.
Thanks for your time it really was getting very frustrating.
John
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Hi Support & All,
A new phenomenon? For me it is. I saw this on my screen this afternoon:
1. BAW63 EGLL-HUEN appears on my screen as networkflight (*) a/c in service: G-BNWZ
2. five minutes later this aircraft arrived in my area of reception (* disappeared): flightid changed into BAW874 EGLL-HUEN
What is happening here? Allready reported to you? If so: sorry for this.
BTW: BAW874 should be EGLL-UUDD but that aside.....
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Its not new, we mentioned before that if the Flight ID changed it doesn't recheck the route and this would be looked at.
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Thank you! But what is not new?
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You said new flight id problem. Its not new it has been known before.
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Oh, you are so kind!
The route problem is well known but what do you have to say about what I said in the first place?
For your information again: change of flight id between network>own reception. Do I made my self clear now?
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Another error.
Cumps
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For your information again: change of flight id between network>own reception. Do I made my self clear now?
That does seem to be a different issue.
According to my log, over 2 hours elapsed between G-BNWZ arriving at Heathrow yesterday as the "BAW63" LGAV-EGLL (1102z) and departing as the BAW874 EGLL-UUDD (1320z). I would have thought that the inbound flight would have timed out on the network well before then.
Incidentally the inbound aircraft was sending the wrong Flight ID - it was actually operating the BAW631 (though I don't think that's connected to the problem being discussed).
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Hi Tarbat, Freqhopping, bratters and perhaps Airnav Support in particular.
Hi Tarbat, Freqhopping and Bratters and thanks for taking the time to assist.
Right checked in the database and 163310 looked no different than the other entries around it. It does now as i deleted it. I then deleted the old data as you suggested Tarbat.
Sorry bratters I saw your post and being a bit of a numpty with computers bottled it. I'll try the other two options for now and monitor the situation.
If it returns later tonight or tomorrow I'll try your suggestion.
Thanks for your time it really was getting very frustrating.
John
Well a quick look this morning and despite the above he is back??????????????
401174 GEURT 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 08:40:07
405D0D EZY33KH EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 06:57:49
405D0D EZY33KH EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 09:23:50
405D0D EZY5UB EGPH-EGGW 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 09:04:46
4060A4 BEE601 EGNS-EGGP 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 07:22:04
4060A4 BEE602 EGGP-EGNS 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 08:46:53
AE20C3 RCH604 163310 ... USA - Marines 2009/10/31 08:19:56
What now?
John
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John,
If you use Database Explorer and search for the following Mode S codes, what do you see?
401174
405D0D
4060A4
AE20C3
Make sure you have the 'aircraft' table selected and use:
Text to find: 401174 Condition: IN Field: MS
Do all these aircraft show as being 163310 USA - MARINES
I've checked my database using Database Explorer and all the info looks correct.
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Hi Allocator
Hmmm!!!!!!!!!!
I just tried this twice. Table selected is Aircraft typed ModeS code in, condition field set as In drop down list for field only offers AT AN AG and It wont let me insert MS manually?
Corrupt database?
John
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You have to select 'aircraft' at the top in the Select Table drop-down.
You have 'actype' selected at the moment.
If you cant see:
MS
AR
AT
AN
etc in the drop-down, then you do have a corrupted database.
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Hi Allocator
No selected Aircraft and only AT AN AG are availble Select any other field and the options chance A/C typ as you would expect AT AN AG. Airports gives P4 P3 PN etc and Airlines gives CN C£ etc.
Aircraft selected and it will not change.
Help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John
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Right our posts crossed so a corrupt database it is then? How can I reload the database please?
John
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Hi John just had the same trouble my database died too, strange, but I loaded version 2 and used the basic database then deleted the one in v3.07 and wrote in the one from v2. Not sure if it's the best way but it worked now able to alter and select aircraft but going to have to play catch up with '...' aircraft.
If you have a backup try using that, mine all seemed to go the same though.
Stuart
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Hi i bit the bullet and did a complete reload of the system. I'll keep you posted on 163310 ... USA - Marines.
John
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I just copied my NavData.db3 file from my old RB install directory to the new one - no fancy import or merge involved here.
I ALWAYS rename my existing RB install directory then install the full new version into the default directory offered by the install program. I then run it for a bit to make sure it's OK, then I copy across anything that I need from the old installation - NavData.db3, MyLog.db3, the whole Photo directory, D008.dat etc.
This way I can always go back to the old installation if I need to.
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Hi Support and All,
Since a couple of days a new problem appears with me. I have no idea or things like I report to you below are "known".
1. and for all: I did not change anything on my configuration during the last time;
2. after a couple of hours (I am not sitting constantly in front of my PC) the map freeze. Aircraft does not move any more. The interface looks to work normal. But, as said on the map no action any more.
3. I tested this out: it does not matter or I play my own reception or in combination with the network.
Any help or advice will be verry welcome and thank you in advance!
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John - the hanging/freezing problem is known and according to Airnav 24th October is fixed......
"The flights sorting problem is corrected and tested now."
That was the glitch that caused the freezing. We await the next download - not too long now hopefully.
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Thank you Bratters!
I did not see any reports like this on the forum until sofar. Sorry for that! It comes suddenly with me since last saturday. Until that day all runs "normal" with me....
Let us wait and see. I am glad to see that Support know about this!
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I have a small suggestion for the next beta.
Inclusion of Country name in route information panel.
At present, when you hover over a plane, the information panel next to the photo will only show Airport Name, ICAO code, and State name if US airport.
Could this not be expanded to include country name, which is value 'pt' in the airports database, but have this user selectable in options for those that don't want it displayed.
Although my Geography is good, I don't know where every airport is in the world!
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I have a small suggestion for the next beta.
Inclusion of Country name in route information panel.
At present, when you hover over a plane, the information panel next to the photo will only show Airport Name, ICAO code, and State name if US airport.
Could this not be expanded to include country name, which is value 'pt' in the airports database, but have this user selectable in options for those that don't want it displayed.
Although my Geography is good, I don't know where every airport is in the world!
Excellent suggestion.
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A closely related request that I have made before:
In MyLog, why not use the space below the photos to decode the selected flight's route?
Rod
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We are locking this topic as V3.08 is now available.
Please note that suggestions should be placed in the suggestions thread, not on these threads (which are aimed at the discussion of problems only).
The new V3.08 thread is available at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3763