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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: John Hargreaves on March 25, 2008, 01:24:23 PM
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Hello all,
Is there any reason why EGCN/Doncaster Sheffield isn't shown on the map? It's one of my locals and it's a bit annoying to see planes disappear or pop up in the middle of nowhere.
Radarbox is great and would be ever better if you could correct this for me!
Thanks,
John H.
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Hello all,
Is there any reason why EGCN/Doncaster Sheffield isn't shown on the map? It's one of my locals and it's a bit annoying to see planes disappear or pop up in the middle of nowhere.
Radarbox is great and would be ever better if you could correct this for me!
Thanks,
John H.
John, why don't you draw your own .out file for Sheffield and then you can post it here for others to use :-)
See here for instructions:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=632.0
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Or try this outline from Bones
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Oh, you mean RAF Finningley, I've got that on my map!
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The nav database may be out of date and hence your not seeing the correct name or airport. The out files work very well in correcting that.
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To the other side question
How to delete two airport from my map who is not existed any more?
LGAT
LGMR
Thanks
Chris
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You can't I am afraid, Sorry.
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You might be able to, it may just be transparent in the background. We haven't tried this.
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Hi Support
Is there any way we can 'mess around' with the waypoints and airports databases the same way we can with the D008.dat file ?
The airways for Irish airspace in the Maps / Aviation signs / airways are a couple of years out of date. To get it correct I created a completely new outline for the complete Irish airspace ( took a weekend but well worth the effort ).
The only problem I am left with now is that the fixes are now out of date also ( by about 2 years ). The STARS and SIDS for Shannon now use fixes which are not on the map and I have no way of editing them. I have all the raw data.
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Maybe in some future version has a function to change color for different airports activity . For inactive airport some manual choice like map background color?
Thank you anyway for your answer
Chris
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There are also likely to be major changes to the London are for Luton Stansted etc from later this years so I think it needs to be a priority to be able to change this data. What about being able to blank out all the AirNav data and just use the Bones stuff which is editable ?
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Morning
Could someone just clarify for me the purpose of these outline files?
In John's original question he is saying EGCN is not on his map, mine neither, and I live close by too. What I would like to see is the airport located on the map, as others are, with the runways marked and with the usual extended centre lines showing.
By putting the co-ordinates that you speak of into the outline directory am I implemeting an 'outline' of the airport layout i.e. taxiways, runways etc (which is what I don't want really) or would I just be marking the airport's position on the map ?
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Morning
Could someone just clarify for me the purpose of these outline files?
In John's original question he is saying EGCN is not on his map, mine neither, and I live close by too. What I would like to see is the airport located on the map, as others are, with the runways marked and with the usual extended centre lines showing.
By putting the co-ordinates that you speak of into the outline directory am I implemeting an 'outline' of the airport layout i.e. taxiways, runways etc (which is what I don't want really) or would I just be marking the airport's position on the map ?
Take a look at this website:
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/Kinetic/Kinetic_Utilities.htm
The bits that interest us are the "Outline Files - Airspace" and the "Outline Files - Airfields". Forget about the coastlines and waypoints - don't need these as RadarBox has these already.
The outline files draw an "outline" which can be controlled airspace, airfields, or other areas of interest. You can do what you like with outline files, either use those prepared by others, or make your own. See the FAQ here for details of this:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=632.0
You can have full airport and taxiway outlines - as on the Bones website, or just runways and centrelines, the majority of which are already in RadarBox (just make sure you have them selected "on"). It's up to you what you display :-)
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Allocator
Thanks vey much. These things look 10 times more scary than they actually are ! I'll have a go at that later today.
Thanks again
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Hello again
I'm sorry to labour this point and I understand fully the concept of the outline file which I have in place. However, what I really wanted was just the position and associated label and name for EGCN just like the other airports are shown on RadarBox when I bought it. For example if I zoom in on EGCC I can see a couple of strips representing the two runways and an extended centreline for both of them. This is what I really wanted to do for EGCN rather than have a full airfield outline. Is there a way to do that or is it something RadarBox people have to implement.
Cheers
Wayne
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Wayne,
Using Jordan's Outline Maker, it is very easy to draw outlines (actually just single lines) for the runways, just as you describe for EGCC. The runways must show on Google Earth for you to be able to trace over them to produce the out file.
The extended centrelines are a bit more difficult, especially if you want the range marks on the line. Again, it can be done with Jordan's Outline Maker, but it will be tricky getting the ranges correct.
It is also possible to label the airport, but again, you will have to create the individual letters using Jordan's page - not bad if you are only doing one airfield, but a bit of a pain if you are doing many.
Have you tried drawing an outline, or centrelines - an average 2 runway airport in high detail takes about 10 minutes - give it a go, it's not difficult.
Allocator
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Hi Allocator
Thanks for the info. I think it's the word 'outlines' which is confusing me here as I interpret outlines as a complete layout of the airfield (as I have already installed from the .out file supplied on this site) and overlooked the fact that I could just draw a single line. Sure, will give that a try.
Thanks
Wayne