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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 06:15:36 PM

Title: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
Great work, AirNav. A few comments.

Aircraft routes seem to cover long periods - with busy short range aircraft this leads to very confusing lines tabngling with each other. Any chance that we can choose the period that the routes show, perhaps current route, current day, last n days?

I'm getting many aircraft showing route spikes - as in the attached screenshot - can you filter these out?

After registering, I'm still getting the RadarBox advert in the bottom right corner of the screen. Can you allow registered users to hide it - it does get in the way!

Pilot view isn't working for me yet.

Keep up the good work!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: dantheman on November 19, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
Hats off, very nice professional website. Is the 3d view officially working, it displays a blank page with a 404  (Chrome, Win 7)?
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 19, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Hi Rod and Dan,

Thanks for posting. I believe the Pilot View should work now. I forgot to upload a file when moving the site earlier. Can you re-test to see if the Pilot View now works in your browser.

Thanks again for the feedback.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 19, 2012, 09:51:50 PM
Rod,


Aircraft routes seem to cover long periods - with busy short range aircraft this leads to very confusing lines tabngling with each other. Any chance that we can choose the period that the routes show, perhaps current route, current day, last n days?

I'm getting many aircraft showing route spikes - as in the attached screenshot - can you filter these out?

After registering, I'm still getting the RadarBox advert in the bottom right corner of the screen. Can you allow registered users to hide it - it does get in the way!


These are very good suggestions. The route spike looks like a bug--thanks for pointing it out along with the screenshot. Regarding the 'hiding the Radarbox icon' and the 'flight trail limit', I believe we can incorporate each of them. I will discuss the specifics with the rest of the team and we will then add them to list of items to complete.

Thanks again for the feedback.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 10:10:52 PM
The Pilot View window is now appearing properly and Google Earth is zooming to the right place. However, the view doesn't seem to move, and the icon for the aircraft freezes on the map. When I close the pilot view window, the aircraft icon stays frozen, and if I zoom in or out, disappears altogether.

This may be due to the fact that the site is really clobbering my computer - with the 'real' RadarBox working as well, the processors are working really hard and everything is slowing down. I realise that you are going to be speeding up the site - looking forward to that!

Using Firefox 16.0.2

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 10:19:58 PM
Another suggestion - could you make the line that links the data box to the aircraft icon more obvious? It is fine on dark backgrounds but very difficult to spot on light/white backgrounds. How about the white line surrounded by a thicker black border?

And another - how about having the weather report in a choice of formats - I sitll can't easily decode METAR - could we have Decoded METAR like in the 'real' RadarBox - this may have to be in a scrolling box.

And another: could we have an optional audio alert - perhaps a "bong" when we get a new event in the ticker? And can the ticker box be moveable?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 10:27:59 PM
When I click an airport, I'm getting a box with a number eg 12001 for Heathrow - I assume we should be getting airport data in that box.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: mt007 on November 19, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
Congratulations Airnav.
Excellent work.
Thank's very much for team hard work.
King regards.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
Spelling mistake in the Flight data panel on screen left: "Virtical Speed:" instead of Vertical Speed".

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
When I click a flight in the ticker, I'm taken to the airport where the event happened. Would it be better to take me to the aircraft icon, which may have moved well away from the airport by the time I click the ticker?

I admire the effort to have the links to the airport homepages in the route info, but I've found a dead link already (to DNAA) - how are you going to keep these updated?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 19, 2012, 11:09:50 PM
Ticker bug - I clicked on this: "UPS Airlines flight UPS237 just took off from Nottingham (UK) [EGNX]" and was taken to Cologne, where UPS275 was landing. I could find no trace of UPS237 anywhere, either on real Radarbox or on '24.

The Cologne aircraft was Unique ID 552922 Mode-S A3866A if it helps.

BTW - what is the unique ID - is it for internal use and do we users need to see it?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 19, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
Spelling mistake in the Flight data panel on screen left: "Virtical Speed:" instead of Vertical Speed".

Rod

Thanks for the catch Rod. It is now fixed.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 19, 2012, 11:22:08 PM
When I click an airport, I'm getting a box with a number eg 12001 for Heathrow - I assume we should be getting airport data in that box.

Rod


The 'World Runways' is a KML we are working on for all runways throughout the world. Currently, when you click on a runway, it shows its length in a box. The plan is to finish this KML to show more detailed runway/airport information. As you can imagine, building a KML with all of the worlds runways and displaying it in a KML is a bit complicated (at least to get it to load and display quickly). We will continually improve on this layer (as well as add more layers).
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 19, 2012, 11:26:39 PM

BTW - what is the unique ID - is it for internal use and do we users need to see it?

Rod

unique_id is being shown for us while we develop the application. It it helpful when debugging certain cases. You can ignore that for now, it will go away as we get closer to releasing it officially.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: mikek on November 20, 2012, 03:50:00 AM
There appears to be an error displaying the flight path/history, possibly when aircraft cross the 180East/West line. A Lan Chile flight (LAN800) displaying around New Zealand seems to have gone from South America to NZ and Australia direct and also via the South Pole several times!

Could just be something to do with the aircraft/flight, but it seems to be normal on the radarbox when it's around this way.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: FACTflights on November 20, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
Very nice web site AN, thank you.

I have to agree with a previous post, it going to be difficult if the whole map is covered in route lines, but no doubt you will sort that one out soon.

John
ZS1AGH
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: dantheman on November 20, 2012, 10:46:18 AM
Upon opening Chrome's dev tools I get a couple of 404's, probably a path issue:

http://www.radarbox24.com/img/sv/B77W/QTR.png Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)
GET http://www.radarbox24.com/img/sv/A333/SWR.png 404 (Not Found)
GET http://www.radarbox24.com/img/airport_logos/EINN.png 404 (Not Found) mootools-core-1.4.3-full-compat-yc.js:303

and a bunch of Exceptions :
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'RYR' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'MSR' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'DLH' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'MAU' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'GOL' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Aerotower on November 20, 2012, 10:57:57 AM
Hi Airnav,
As the RadarBox, the RadarBox24 is very heavy and uses too much CPU.

Is it possible to make it lighter? And do the same with the new version of RadarBox?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 20, 2012, 02:57:14 PM
Very nice web site AN, thank you.

I have to agree with a previous post, it going to be difficult if the whole map is covered in route lines, but no doubt you will sort that one out soon.

John
ZS1AGH

Hi John,

We are working on fixing the route line issue. We are working to only show the current flight trail only. We may create an option to show more (in the user preferences) but we need to discuss this more with the team. Thank you for the feedback.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 20, 2012, 03:01:16 PM
Upon opening Chrome's dev tools I get a couple of 404's, probably a path issue:

http://www.radarbox24.com/img/sv/B77W/QTR.png Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)
GET http://www.radarbox24.com/img/sv/A333/SWR.png 404 (Not Found)
GET http://www.radarbox24.com/img/airport_logos/EINN.png 404 (Not Found) mootools-core-1.4.3-full-compat-yc.js:303

and a bunch of Exceptions :
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'RYR' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'MSR' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'DLH' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'MAU' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930
Exception caught processing flight data TypeError: Cannot read property 'GOL' of null RadarBoxApp.js:4930


Hi Dan,

Those 404 are actually ok in this case. When a flight is selected, we try to load the side-view 3D rendering or the active airport logo. If the async load fails with a 404, we then replace it with the default image. Our goal is to get all of the side-view renderings and logos complete so the 404 will never happen, but in the meantime, the 404 triggers the default image to show.

The Exception on line 4930 you posted is indeed a problem. I am investigating this one right now. Thank you for catching it!
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 20, 2012, 03:10:07 PM
Hi Airnav,
As the RadarBox, the RadarBox24 is very heavy and uses too much CPU.

Is it possible to make it lighter? And do the same with the new version of RadarBox?

Thanks,

Hi Aerotower,

The current beta release is not yet optimized for performance so it will run very heavy. Slower PCs will likely show a JavaScript warning saying something about becoming "non responsive". We are planning to do some significant optimizations to prevent this as we get closer to the full public release.

In the meantime, changing the aircraft labels settings (in Options->Map in the left column) to "on hover" and setting the Aircraft Type Icons to "Simple" and unchecking "Animate Aircraft" will all really help with the CPU usage. If you get a chance, try changing those settings and see if you notice a significant difference in CPU usage.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 20, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
The more I use the site, the more I like it!

Love the links to airports data and logo, and I'm looking forward to the arrivals/departure boards when you get them working.

I wonder whether an aircraft database could be added with basic data (pax, range, dimensions, speeds etc) about each aircraft type would be possible and useful. I would I guess have to be based on the actual aircraft model as, for example, a B748 could be pax or freight, and an A330 could be civil or mil. The Mobile Aircraft Encyclopedia smartphone app has the sort of stuff I'm talking about, but that uses aircraft ICAO codes.

It could add interest.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 20, 2012, 05:02:31 PM
Another request - can you timestamp the Events Ticker?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Aerotower on November 20, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
Hi Airnav,
As the RadarBox, the RadarBox24 is very heavy and uses too much CPU.

Is it possible to make it lighter? And do the same with the new version of RadarBox?

Thanks,

Hi Aerotower,

The current beta release is not yet optimized for performance so it will run very heavy. Slower PCs will likely show a JavaScript warning saying something about becoming "non responsive". We are planning to do some significant optimizations to prevent this as we get closer to the full public release.

In the meantime, changing the aircraft labels settings (in Options->Map in the left column) to "on hover" and setting the Aircraft Type Icons to "Simple" and unchecking "Animate Aircraft" will all really help with the CPU usage. If you get a chance, try changing those settings and see if you notice a significant difference in CPU usage.

Hi guys,

I did what you suggested but I still have peaks of 50% of CPU usage.

As you can see, the RadarBox also has peaks of 50% or more without even having the radar on, just working with the software and get METAR's information and send FTP's.
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9456/cpuusagew.png)
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6323/cpuusage1.png)
Regards
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on November 21, 2012, 02:33:36 AM
Great work, AirNav. A few comments.

I'm getting many aircraft showing route spikes - as in the attached screenshot - can you filter these out?

Keep up the good work!

Rod


I am also getting many spikes to the same point off the west Africa post.  I believe this may be the zero North zero East position, where the Greenwich meridian crosses the equator.  Looks like the software is taking temporary drop outs of position info literally, as the aircraft then being at zero North zero East.  The lines need to ignore any zero zero indications.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on November 21, 2012, 03:03:23 AM
For the US data that is shown in Green, would it be possible to tie up an N-Number flight ID to see whether the corresponding N number was in the radarbox database.

For example over Hawaii the following flight was being shown, but with no model or details of operator


unique_id:   616452
Flight No:   N97974
From:   PHJR (JRF) - JRF (Kapolei)
To:   PHMU (JRF) - PHMU (Kamuela Hawaii Island)
Registration:   N97974
Altitude:   5900 ft (1798 m)
Speed:   170 kt (315 km/h, 196 mph)
Course:   109 °
Data Source:   Honolulu (PZHN)

This airframe is in our Radarbox database as a Mooney M20J 201 owned by Hawaii Planing Mill Ltd
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: knight01 on November 21, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
I have noticed the flight data on the website is delayed by about 40-45 secs.  I have seen many aircraft taking off and landing to/from LHR with about 1000ft below from the actual altitude and about 40-45sec positional data difference between the Website data and my Radarbox software display.  Radarbox software data is correct, I can listen on my scanner when aircraft report heading and altitude.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 21, 2012, 02:54:23 PM

Hi guys,

I did what you suggested but I still have peaks of 50% of CPU usage.

As you can see, the RadarBox also has peaks of 50% or more without even having the radar on, just working with the software and get METAR's information and send FTP's.

Regards

Aerotower,

It appears from your screenshot that the change of settings did help reduce the CPU load for RadarBox24 (the web application). RB24 runs completely inside of the browser process (in your case it is firefox.exe). It went from about 27% down to 6% after you changed the settings (normally the usage varies depending on whether new data is arriving or if the map is being moved etc). The process you see in your Task Manager called ANRB.exe is the Windows client software version of RadarBox and it currently doesn't interact directly with the firefox process so they are completely independent in terms of CPU usage. This means if you change the settings in RB24 web application, it wont reduce the CPU usage of ANRB.exe.

I will forward your post to the Windows software team (who specialize in the ANRB process) and see if they can give you any ideas how to bring down that 50% CPU usage. Can you post (or email me [email protected]) your system specs so it gives us an idea of the hardware you are using?
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 21, 2012, 02:56:14 PM
For the US data that is shown in Green, would it be possible to tie up an N-Number flight ID to see whether the corresponding N number was in the radarbox database.

For example over Hawaii the following flight was being shown, but with no model or details of operator


unique_id:   616452
Flight No:   N97974
From:   PHJR (JRF) - JRF (Kapolei)
To:   PHMU (JRF) - PHMU (Kamuela Hawaii Island)
Registration:   N97974
Altitude:   5900 ft (1798 m)
Speed:   170 kt (315 km/h, 196 mph)
Course:   109 °
Data Source:   Honolulu (PZHN)

This airframe is in our Radarbox database as a Mooney M20J 201 owned by Hawaii Planing Mill Ltd

ACW367,

Great suggestion. This will get us that aircraft type and airline/owner fields for the flight tab. I will add this feature to our feature list. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 21, 2012, 02:59:25 PM
I have noticed the flight data on the website is delayed by about 40-45 secs.  I have seen many aircraft taking off and landing to/from LHR with about 1000ft below from the actual altitude and about 40-45sec positional data difference between the Website data and my Radarbox software display.  Radarbox software data is correct, I can listen on my scanner when aircraft report heading and altitude.

knight01,

We are discussing this internally and working to reduce this number to the absolute minimum. Thank you for the comment. This is a very important point.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on November 21, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
Using the RB d/b to ID type/owner etc of ASDI aircraft was suggested a number of months ago

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on November 21, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
Just had a duel aircraft in the ASDI data.  Two airframes apparently flying in formation, with one having a partial registration of the other one.  Looks like a decoding error of the ASDI data was occuring

Flight No:   N35246
Registration:   N35246
Altitude:   2400 ft (732 m)
Speed:   115 kt (213 km/h, 132 mph)
Course:   276 °
Data Source:   Kansas City ARTCC (KSMA)

Flight No:   N246   [NOTE N246 is not assigned by the FAA]
Registration:   N246
Altitude:   2400 ft (732 m)
Speed:   116 kt (215 km/h, 133 mph)
Course:   276 °
Data Source:   Atlanta ARTCC (KSMA)
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Aerotower on November 21, 2012, 09:13:40 PM

Hi guys,

I did what you suggested but I still have peaks of 50% of CPU usage.

As you can see, the RadarBox also has peaks of 50% or more without even having the radar on, just working with the software and get METAR's information and send FTP's.

Regards

Aerotower,

It appears from your screenshot that the change of settings did help reduce the CPU load for RadarBox24 (the web application). RB24 runs completely inside of the browser process (in your case it is firefox.exe). It went from about 27% down to 6% after you changed the settings (normally the usage varies depending on whether new data is arriving or if the map is being moved etc). The process you see in your Task Manager called ANRB.exe is the Windows client software version of RadarBox and it currently doesn't interact directly with the firefox process so they are completely independent in terms of CPU usage. This means if you change the settings in RB24 web application, it wont reduce the CPU usage of ANRB.exe.

I will forward your post to the Windows software team (who specialize in the ANRB process) and see if they can give you any ideas how to bring down that 50% CPU usage. Can you post (or email me [email protected]) your system specs so it gives us an idea of the hardware you are using?

Hi,

This is my system Toshiba Satellite A300-1S9...

Regards,
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 23, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
Pilot View is now working for me - a little jerky, but OK, except that while "in" a plane landing at Liverpool, the "aliimeter" said we were at 300ft, when the pilot view bumped into the (flat) ground, and then bounced along the fields to the runway - ouch!

I think some tweaking regarding heights might be required.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Aerotower on November 23, 2012, 11:11:22 PM
The logos are very bad, fogged.

Why not use the logos of Rod? If he does not care, of course.

Why Lisbon is the ocean? And other sites are displaced?

Regards,
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on November 24, 2012, 01:29:45 AM

Why Lisbon is the ocean? And other sites are displaced?

Regards,

This dot shows the centre point KML file for Portuguese airspace.  It is in the ocean because Portuguese airspace extends to Funchal.  Zoom out to see the the entire of southern Europe and the placing of the dots will look clearly in the centre of each airspace block.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 25, 2012, 12:34:35 PM
Aircraft are still being attracted to lat/long zero zero.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 25, 2012, 01:35:46 PM
Thanks for getting the airport arrivals/departures going - very useful.

A bit of tidying up of route lines appears to be needed - the screenshot's active flight route on the right shows wrong joining up of the dots. While the route line on the left shows a route that I displayed half an hour ago, and despite me touring all around the world since then, it won't go away.

PS - can you see the lines joining the aircraft to their data boxes? Neither can I!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on November 26, 2012, 01:13:18 AM
Aircraft are still being attracted to lat/long zero zero.

Rod


Happened to me whilst in pilot view.  The pilot view window from final approach at heathrow, took a supersonic launch down through europe and across Africa and plummeted me to that point on the mid atlantic.  Then dragged me supersonic back north to be back on the Heathrow approach again in about six seconds flat. 

Great thrill ride, can you put a g-meter on the pilot view ;-)
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: LoneCrowe on November 29, 2012, 12:51:02 AM
Yeah this is fantastic - is this site related to flightradar24?  That site is always behind 5-10 mins on each flight so its hard to know when planes are coming in.  I had to listen to ATC tonight to find out when someone was coming in the ILS approach to take my kid out to watch. 

Is this a little more realtime? 

Also I see a bunch of people today squawked 7700 today but if you click on the flight it doesnt tell you where. 

Maybe if we could click on the flight we could see where the incident happened etc?

Also the area events seem to not work it seems to be more global than where we are actually zoomed in. 
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 29, 2012, 12:57:14 AM
Hi LoneCrowe

No relation to FlightRadar24 as far as I know.

To get the Events ticker to be more relevant to you, click on Options, then enter the codes for airports you are interested in. I'm not sure, but maybe you have to register before you can do that.

Hope that helps

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: LoneCrowe on November 29, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
No one of the problems is that it doesnt detect the "area" you are viewing.  The events on the right hand side show events from around the world instead of actual "Area Events" as it is titled.  For example I'm just viewing the Detroit Area and its showing me events form Japan. 
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: LoneCrowe on November 29, 2012, 02:47:49 PM
Another "bug" would be if you use the view as "radar"  and you select navaids you can't see them because the navaid icon is dark like the color of the ground. 
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on November 29, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
LoneCrow

Under the Options tab you can choose the airport(s) you wish to view under the Area Events.  If you dont choose an airport it gives general events worldwide. You can even switch it off by unticking the box
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: LoneCrowe on November 29, 2012, 04:02:34 PM
I did choose the airport,  and it still gives me global events.  I even signed in etc. 
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on November 29, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Works OK for me, I presume you are logged in and have an account?

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 29, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Works fine for me too - you should be using ICAO airport codes.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on November 29, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
In Pilot View, I'm still bouncing along the ground on the approach, with a final leap before hitting the runway really hard!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: LoneCrowe on November 29, 2012, 07:33:11 PM
Yeah I had the right airport in there,  CYQG and it did eventually work once I reloaded. 

Still have a question about the coverage.  I listen to my local tower and it misses a LOT of aircraft in my area.  I think it is quite delayed as well.  It still has way more features than the other site.  It just needs some polish and some performance improvements. 

Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on November 29, 2012, 08:03:24 PM
The ASDI data is 5 minutes delayed

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 29, 2012, 11:06:22 PM
In Pilot View, I'm still bouncing along the ground on the approach, with a final leap before hitting the runway really hard!

Rod


Rod,

This one is on the list to fix. We haven't had a chance to work on this one yet.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on November 29, 2012, 11:12:35 PM

Still have a question about the coverage.  I listen to my local tower and it misses a LOT of aircraft in my area.  I think it is quite delayed as well.  It still has way more features than the other site.  It just needs some polish and some performance improvements. 



Runway31 is correct -- the ASDI aircraft (green icons) are delayed 5 minutes (by the FAA). So if you are listening to a live scanner, the positions on the website for these non-ADS-B flights will not accurately correspond to what you are listening to on the scanner. Hopefully as we get more ADS-B coverage with RadarBox units and more US ADS-B equipped aircraft, we can start replacing these green icons with yellow (real-time) icons.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Frank on December 05, 2012, 10:04:23 AM
Looking good,great addition,fantastic job team!
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: anorak on December 05, 2012, 08:10:28 PM
3x small points
could the info box on the left have a hide button, or show when a flight is selected?
When a flight has been selected is there a way of cancelling that selection?
I have also lost the tool bar at the top of the screen.
Thanks Guys,  Dave.

Just found the tool bar it does not show except on full screen.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Siddy on December 05, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
Can't login on web page using my email address, logged on here no probs.
Anyone having probs or is it me lol, if so can you send my email password as it won't fails when password reset is clicked
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on December 06, 2012, 04:36:06 AM
Can't login on web page using my email address, logged on here no probs.
Anyone having probs or is it me lol, if so can you send my email password as it won't fails when password reset is clicked

Hi Siddy,

Are you trying to log into www.radarbox24.com with your www.airnavsystem.com/forum account? If so, this wont work since the two databases are not connected in any way. You will first need to create a new free account on the RadarBox24.com website (you can do so with this link: http://www.radarbox24.com/#signup ).

If you did already create an account with www.RadarBox24.com and still cannot log in, please email me directly ([email protected]) and I will help you with this offline.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: EK01 on December 06, 2012, 11:18:59 AM
Looking good with just a few of comments :

In the grid can we have the addition of sorting by height ?

Are we going to be able to set up alerts as in the ANRB?

In ANRB I have EZY456K correctly showing the route as LEAL to EGGD but in the Radarbox24 no routing is shown. Will there be a 'database explorer' section that we can go into and make changes/additions ?

Finally, how do I set my home location on the map (not the local airport) as can be done on ANRB. I have gone into 'options' and tried to change the co-ordinates shown but without success.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on December 06, 2012, 12:05:06 PM
Ian,

The easiest way to change the co-ordinates I found was to zoom into the house on the map and then press the "Use current map position as home location" button

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: EK01 on December 06, 2012, 03:06:52 PM
Cheers Alan.

It's a learning curve !
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: EK01 on December 06, 2012, 03:53:11 PM
Ian,

The easiest way to change the co-ordinates I found was to zoom into the house on the map and then press the "Use current map position as home location" button

Alan

Done that and it does work however it doesn't seem to apply a marker of some kind on the map or do I have to really zoom in to see any marker which then spoils the map coverage.
The most annoying thing that I am finding is the lack of routes. They are shown on ANRB but not on radarbox 24 for the same flight on many occasions. Is a separate route database being used for the 2 systems and is it just a case of radarbox 24 currently being a beta version only.

EDIT: Also for AN a  possible slight bug in that some aircraft are showing their route details within the box on the map but when you highlight the aircraft concerned the route details do not appear within the details on the left.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: SCANNERMAN on December 16, 2012, 09:33:09 PM
Have to agree with Rod beardon the trail is thr only thing that I can't get used to but apart from that FIRST CLASS job thanks
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 12, 2013, 01:30:38 AM
Got another stray aircraft at 0/0 tonight.

Oh and BTW - I may have missed something, but I'm seeing a few aircraft with this circular icon - some do have aircraft type showing, so does that just mean that you haven't classified that aircraft type to show the correct icon?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 13, 2013, 05:15:16 PM
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Got another stray aircraft at 0/0 tonight.

Rod,

Thanks for point this out. I believe I fixed the bug that let this (0,0) slip through. You will need to do a complete reload (ctrl + refresh) to get the new source files. If you still see these, let me know.

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Oh and BTW - I may have missed something, but I'm seeing a few aircraft with this circular icon - some do have aircraft type showing, so does that just mean that you haven't classified that aircraft type to show the correct icon?

The circle icon indicates that there is no heading information available for that flight. Previously we defaulted to 0 degrees (icon pointing up), but now we show the little circle icon.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 13, 2013, 06:12:57 PM
Thanks - I just tested the Forgot Password routine :-0 - works fine!

Thanks for the Legend popup - that should prevent more stupid questions!

Suggestion - the Chat button is difficult to find - currently mixed in with options concerned with the active  flight - might it be better to put this button on the header bar?

The Filter panel keeps disappearing, especially while I'm dragging the lower Speed slider. Also, I'd like to see the Clear Filter button appear at the top of the map when any filter is in operation, not just when following a flight. Small point - when I have dragged the filter sliders back to their limits, I've effectively got no filters in operation, so perhaps you can reset/hide the Clear Filter button(s) in that situation.

HTH

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 13, 2013, 06:28:53 PM
Another suggestion.

Could we have decoded METAR for the airport weather report? I really can't work out the raw METAR!

I guess it would have to be in a pop-up like the recent Emergency Squawks, on a button like "Weather at AAAA" where AAAA is the active airport code.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 13, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
Another thing - the Events Ticker isn't working.

(All comments based on using Firefox 18.0)

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 14, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
Another nasty route

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 14, 2013, 03:24:58 PM
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Another suggestion.

Could we have decoded METAR for the airport weather report? I really can't work out the raw METAR!

I guess it would have to be in a pop-up like the recent Emergency Squawks, on a button like "Weather at AAAA" where AAAA is the active airport code.

Rod,

I made the METAR clickable (you may need a full page reload to see it). When the METAR string is clicked, it will show the decoded METAR in a little popup similar to the Squawk popup. I will discuss with the team whether we can also add a button like you mentioned to show the same info in a different popup.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on January 14, 2013, 04:14:56 PM
I like the decoded METER much better that having to try and decode, thanks again

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 14, 2013, 04:33:39 PM
Thanks for that, 3D Dev!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 14, 2013, 05:04:36 PM
Strange logo for this - can't see an obvious reason for it not to show the BA logo.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 14, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
Another problem logo - this time an old one for JAS - it should be Jet Aviation Flight Services.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 14, 2013, 06:09:58 PM
Another two requests:

1 - When I've checked "Show only these flights" for an airport, I then have to remember that I've done it, and rerturn to the Airport panel to turn off that filter.

Could you please show the main "Filter is Active - Clear Filter" in that situation?

2 - Could you show an optional map scale line (Nm, Km and Miles)? Perhaps this could be another Premium Option.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 15, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
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Another two requests:

1 - When I've checked "Show only these flights" for an airport, I then have to remember that I've done it, and rerturn to the Airport panel to turn off that filter.

Could you please show the main "Filter is Active - Clear Filter" in that situation?

2 - Could you show an optional map scale line (Nm, Km and Miles)? Perhaps this could be another Premium Option.

Rod

Rod,

These are good suggestions. I have added them both to the list.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 15, 2013, 03:27:02 PM
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Another thing - the Events Ticker isn't working.

We're working on the ticker. Hopefully it will be back up soon.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on January 15, 2013, 04:55:53 PM
I've turned off the RadarBox banner - thanks!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 15, 2013, 05:02:09 PM
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I've turned off the RadarBox banner - thanks!

The setting doesn't save to the server (yet) so it isn't persistent between browser refreshes. I am working on getting the setting saved to the database.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on January 15, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
3D Dev,

There used to be an option for model type simple/detailed etc, has this been done away with as I cannot find it and I prefer to change to simple.

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Hawkeye on January 15, 2013, 08:45:51 PM
Another suggestion/request.

Would it be a lot of trouble to show the lat/long position of a selected aircraft in the flight data panel as it is in other tracking programmes?

Regards,
Syd
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 16, 2013, 04:34:46 AM
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Would it be a lot of trouble to show the lat/long position of a selected aircraft in the flight data panel as it is in other tracking programmes?

I added a new field labeled "Position" to the Flight tab. Do others find this field useful?
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on January 16, 2013, 10:08:00 AM
Thanks Dev, appreciated

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Hawkeye on January 16, 2013, 01:11:56 PM
Thanks, that was quick.

Syd
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav Development on January 16, 2013, 11:43:06 PM
"There used to be an option for model type simple/detailed etc, has this been done away with as I cannot find it and I prefer to change to simple."

We've removed this option as it we want to keep things simple: if you have less than X aircraft on screen detailed icons will be shown otherwise only simple icons.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on January 17, 2013, 10:17:53 AM
Thanks Dev,

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on February 03, 2013, 07:27:01 PM
Request:

Could we have the area events ticker show the date and time of each message?

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on February 04, 2013, 02:08:46 AM
A couple of bugs here:

First, the DAL1 icon is pointing the backwards (this might be the planes' problem rather than RB24's)

Second, the aircraft type is different on the map and in the info panel. I guess the map should read B763.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: neroon79 on February 06, 2013, 05:53:25 PM
Any suggestion for this "routing line":
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on February 09, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
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Any suggestion for this "routing line":

This one is on our list to fix.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: juangelb35 on February 12, 2013, 11:30:26 PM
Hi Peolpe
In opening RB24 i am getting this message : Google has disabled use of the Maps API for this application
And it does not load the map .....
What it would be ??

TKS
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on February 13, 2013, 09:20:20 PM
Hi jaungelb35,

Are you still seeing this error? Were you seeing this in the widget (embedded in a different webpage) or on the RadarBox24.com website? Google Maps API has a map request limit to the Maps API (1.0 requests/second/user). You may have encountered this limit somehow. Let me know if you still see this error. Please attach a screenshot including the URL you are using too if possible. You can post it here or send it directly to [email protected].
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: neroon79 on February 14, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
At the decoded METAR Lable is it somehow possible to add the windspeed in knots. Because I'm living in the metric world or if I'm with my hobby I'm with the nautical measures (nm and kt). Because I've absolutely no relation with the non metric mile measures.

Thanks in advance!

Ingo
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on February 16, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
Hi

Routes which have a via in addition to the org/dest appear to be problamatic.  An example is CAL52 which is showing as NZAA-YSSY when is should show NZAA-YSSY-RCTP.

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on March 02, 2013, 01:15:13 AM
Many thanks for putting the time on the events ticker, 3D Dev.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: ACW367 on March 02, 2013, 02:46:33 AM
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Posted by: AirNav 3D Development

We've removed this option as it we want to keep things simple: if you have less than X aircraft on screen detailed icons will be shown otherwise only simple icons.

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Posted by: AirNav 3D Development

I added a new field labeled "Position" to the Flight tab. Do others find this field useful?

RB24 Dev, thank you very much for continuing to evolve the RB24 software through these small patches to deliver upgrades and bug fixes as they have been identified.  Your work on this is very very much appreciated. 

As a comment it would be great if on the 'about' tab you could include a line detailing the current version/patch number.  Then we could all see how the product is rapidly evolving based on user input to the design/bug fix process.  What is the current version/patch number?

It remains a shame that this has not been the case for the software from the other team that supports the flagship hardware product.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on March 04, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Thank you guys for all of the ideas/suggestions. If you have any other suggestions or comments, please post here and I will do my best to work them into the application.

ACW367, I will try to find a way of making the build version available to the client browser. I will post here as soon as I figure out a good way to implement this.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on March 08, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
I have the world runways ticked but the runways seem to have disappeared.

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Runway 31 on March 08, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
Runways now back on

Alan
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: neroon79 on March 23, 2013, 05:33:26 AM
As I have two boxes:

Is it somehow possible, that if you open the feeding statistics diagrams and one is already open, the second one will be opened beneath or aside the first and directly over it?

Further I would like it to have a third diagram (or a second line in the other diagrams) that shows me the combined feeding statistics of both boxes.

Thanks ahead!

Ingo
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on April 13, 2013, 12:34:26 AM
It's nice that we can now see who's feeding what.

How about a quick way of finding out which planes a particular box is providing, perhaps by clicking the box/sharer number of an already-selected plane? Perhaps that could be a Premium Sharer option ;-)

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on April 13, 2013, 12:50:00 AM
When I click on an airport in the Flight panel, I get the right info, but the map jumps to a random position, seemingly unrelated to the airport. Is the intention that it jumps to the airport? If so, its aim is off!

Also, I've noticed that having clicked on one airport code and seen the info, the next time I click on a plane with a known route, the airport codes are shown briefly in the Flight panel, then sometimes they disappear and don't return. Other times they fill out nicely. Apparently random behaviour. I'll let you know if I find a pattern.

And have you done anything to optimise the client processor requirements? It's still clobbering my machine - even just typing this is a pain with RB24 running!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on April 14, 2013, 01:11:17 AM
Small point: It's happened a few times this evening that I've clicked on a plane near me and the flight panel says that I'm providing the data. I click on My Account, and it says I'm providing 0 flights.

They can't both be right!

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: Hawkeye on April 18, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
Re points raised in Rod’s last few postings about sharing,

I’ve found that although my account shows me as a premium feeder, flights showing on my R/Box are not appearing on RB24.  I realise I’m in an area where there are many providers and it’s a case of ‘first come first show’ and my contributions may not be needed, but there are some occasions when either RB24 is not processing any contributions, or,  if I am the only one on line at that time, mine are certainly not being processed.
Ain’t at all bothered my box doesn’t appear in the panel ‘honours list’ but wondering if something needs sorting by AirNav

Attached comparison screenshot piccies taken at the same time this evening.

Syd
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on April 22, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
Little bugette:

It's now remembering my preferences between sessions, but while it remembers that the Show Map Scale checkbox is ticked, the Map Scale itself isn't.

If I click the checkbox twice - turning it off and on again, the scale appears.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on April 22, 2013, 06:16:33 PM
Hi Rod,

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It's now remembering my preferences between sessions, but while it remembers that the Show Map Scale checkbox is ticked, the Map Scale itself isn't.

If I click the checkbox twice - turning it off and on again, the scale appears.

This is indeed a bug. It's on the list of remaining items to fix. Also note that the same bug exists for the mini-map setting.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on April 30, 2013, 01:22:42 AM
Rod & Hawkeye,

I am still investigating the issue with the flights on your RB software are not showing in RB24. If you catch this happening again, could you note the time it happens and the flight number/hex code of the missing flight(s). Also, if possible, send an email to [email protected] when it happens and I will try to observe the problem as it is happening and look for clues.

Thank you for catching this problem and your help trying to figure out the cause.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on April 30, 2013, 01:25:46 AM
Hi Neroon79,

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As I have two boxes:

Is it somehow possible, that if you open the feeding statistics diagrams and one is already open, the second one will be opened beneath or aside the first and directly over it?

Further I would like it to have a third diagram (or a second line in the other diagrams) that shows me the combined feeding statistics of both boxes.

I have added these requests to the future feature list. We will try to get them coded up in the couple of weeks. Thank you for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on May 29, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
Another little bug - quite annoying this time...

The second row on random aircraft labels is jumping left and right erratically, often a few times a second.

An extra character or two is appearing front of the FL.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on May 30, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
Hi Rod,

That missing character is a small up/down arrow that we show to indicate whether the aircraft is climbing/descending. I'm not sure why it's not showing in your browser. Could you try a different browser on the same PC and let me know if you get the same problem. Also, what browser type/version are you seeing this in?
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: RodBearden on May 30, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
Hi 3D Dev

The problem has gone away today - the arrows were happily showing on other aircraft labels while others were flashing. 

I'm using Firefox 21.0, and it's all OK on IE10 as well.

Rod
Title: Re: Various comments
Post by: neroon79 on June 10, 2013, 06:10:45 PM
Buggy Playback-Mode.

If in Playback-Mode the time-line is used to jump through the time the actually flown route isn't coloured up, but additional routing lines are drawn.