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Title: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: bailey_uk on September 01, 2008, 07:19:16 PM
This aircraft (Registration ZH104) has been in My Flights pretty much all day, is this a common occourance?

Would love to be able to get its position, is there anyway of doing it?

James
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: tarbat on September 01, 2008, 07:30:28 PM
Look up in the sky!!!

It was in MyFlights for over 3 hours today, always around FL310.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: bailey_uk on September 01, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
hehe today is the first time Ive seen blue sky in a long time!

When filtering military, is it fair to say that 43* would work in the S-Mode collumn? is there a similar rule for the USAF?
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: jgrloit on September 01, 2008, 07:36:56 PM
Now replaced by ASTOR4   mode-S 43C09E    ZJ693  at 43000.   suspect from the coverage here in the Tyne Valley that it is in the Scottich Borders Refuel area.

The E3CF replaced a European aircraft with similar flight characteristics around midday.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Danielsen on September 01, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
I had this one today: 4D03C8, NATO05, LX-N90450, E3CF, Luxembourg - NATO, 2008/09/01 14:38:26z at FL310, but only for like 20 min. :)
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Allocator on September 01, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
hehe today is the first time Ive seen blue sky in a long time!

When filtering military, is it fair to say that 43* would work in the S-Mode collumn? is there a similar rule for the USAF?

43C* for Brit Mil

AE0* and some of the ADF*/AE1* for the US Mil - they've got more aeroplanes than us!
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: DaveReid on September 02, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
I had this one today: 4D03C8, NATO05, LX-N90450, E3CF, Luxembourg - NATO, 2008/09/01 14:38:26z at FL310, but only for like 20 min. :)

You might want to amend your database - the LX- AWACS aircraft are E3TFs rather than E3CFs.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Roadrunner on September 02, 2008, 08:46:57 AM
hehe today is the first time Ive seen blue sky in a long time!

When filtering military, is it fair to say that 43* would work in the S-Mode collumn? is there a similar rule for the USAF?

43C* for Brit Mil

AE0* and some of the ADF*/AE1* for the US Mil - they've got more aeroplanes than us!

Try ADFD*, ADFE* and AE* for your USA military - it covers all known ones I have had in 20 months......

Regards

Mike
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: jgrloit on September 02, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
I had a similar NATO18 online today from 13:30 to approx 18:30.
Now have 4 x Tornado F3's on screen at various heights.
From the Squark codes they are from 2 groups - 5121, 5122, 5123 and 4615.

Any ideas of problems tonight?
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: bailey_uk on September 02, 2008, 08:47:33 PM
Where abouts are you based?

Are they displaying their position too?
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: jgrloit on September 02, 2008, 09:01:26 PM
UK Military Never run with mode B only Mode S.
I am 20 Miles West of Newcastle-upon Tyne, UK.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Danielsen on September 02, 2008, 09:43:40 PM
You might want to amend your database - the LX- AWACS aircraft are E3TFs rather than E3CFs.

Where exactly do I amend it? I've looked around a bit in the data folder but no luck.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: testmonkey on September 02, 2008, 09:54:35 PM
Either use the built in Database Explorer (from the File menu) and search the Aircraft table for the ModeS or Registration of the aircraft that need editing or take a copy of the NavData.db3 database from the Data folder and edit it using an external SQLite database editor.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Roadrunner on September 03, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
NATO's E3's have started using tactical codes on Mode-S. The most recent code being 001011 seen on 2nd September from NATO19. The code is not officially allocated to any country :-(
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Danielsen on September 03, 2008, 07:03:44 PM
Either use the built in Database Explorer (from the File menu) and search the Aircraft table for the ModeS or Registration of the aircraft that need editing or take a copy of the NavData.db3 database from the Data folder and edit it using an external SQLite database editor.

Cool, thanks for the guidance.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Terry on September 03, 2008, 09:37:04 PM
james,i pick up many c130s out of Lynham and didn`t notice for a while that some of them give lat & lon in the alerts box,this will give you some idea of where in the vicinity they are,hope this helps
   
  regards terry
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: DaveReid on September 03, 2008, 11:29:41 PM
james,i pick up many c130s out of Lynham and didn`t notice for a while that some of them give lat & lon in the alerts box,this will give you some idea of where in the vicinity they are,hope this helps

Presumably you're referring to some of the visiting foreign C-130s (e.g. the Brazilian ones) rather than the RAF's ?
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: BobR on September 04, 2008, 06:05:49 PM
The E3's seem to spend alot of time around the North East and are often seen doing holds and procedures at Newcastle.

I had NATO 02 talking to Scottish Mil 'holding hands' with Fagin 24 from 2130hrs -2245hrs on 03/09/08 on the UHF. I assumed 'holding hands' to be air to air refuelling as Fagin 24 (ZD948 Tristar KC1 500). The squawk codes quoted above are Boulmer CRC and Scottish military.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: Allocator on September 04, 2008, 07:20:16 PM
"Holding Hands" just means that he's in formation with Fagin 24.  They probably will be refuelling, or at least doing "dry runs" at some point, but not necessarily right now.
Title: Re: E3CF Callsign NATO06
Post by: BobR on September 04, 2008, 08:00:53 PM
Thanks for that. First time I had heard that phrase used before... just thought they were good friends!