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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on February 23, 2011, 02:26:25 PM
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A new navdata.db3 installation is now available:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/DBUpdater/ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe
This has been the result of an amazing work developed by our database updaters volunteer team. The database now contains over 100 thousand aircraft records.
Notes:
1- This installer copies your existing navdata.db3 file to navdata-backup.db3 so you can keep a copy/backup of your previous file;
2- It then replaces your existing database with the new one;
3- A new updated airport database is included;
4- It is important to note that these periodic navdata.db3 releases do not intend to replace the work we will do on the RadarBox client application which will include an auto-update feature and some other requests made by our users and database updaters team;
Hope you enjoy it.
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Has the airline table been updated or just the aircraft?
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Aircraft and Flight Number updated.
Airport table reverted to the one shipped with the RadarBox software but with some changes. Airline table similar to the one found in the last udpate.
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Airnav, what about routes?
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Just a heads-up for the next version, but 42 aircraft in this new database still have invalid ICAO Type codes (field AT), and there are around 611 aircraft types without silhouettes available.
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Tarbat - if you've had a look at DBv2 can you kindly confirm that if I dowload this, whilst restoring some sense to the aiports db it will simultaniously destroy my routes database again?
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Routes database has been updated too.
Tarbat: please keep your reports coming as week after week we will be correcting all the pending problems and improve the entire system.
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Tarbat - if you've had a look at DBv2 can you kindly confirm that if I dowload this, whilst restoring some sense to the aiports db it will simultaniously destroy my routes database again?
There are over 340,000 routes in the new database, but I can't vouch for their accuracy. The few that I've checked, such as Loganair flights, look correct.
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ok, this is, for me at least, again a DB that covers most of my use.
thanks for that, i just have the similar question as Bratters ; if i install further updates in future, will the routes i update manualy in between updates, be overwritten by the latest update ?
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Thanks for the reply Tarbat - since the last job virtually wiped me out routeswise, I've dowloaded over 4500 routes from FD. This is not a decision to take lightly.
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They will be overwritten. This is an update of the whole database file.
As mentioned in point 4 in the first post, this is not designed for allowing the auto update and any changes you have done manually.
The navdata update is something that users wanted who were starting with a fresh database or those who haven't done manual changes.
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thanks for the explenation, then i'll consider this a new start for a DB, will look in future what the best option for update is ( i'm not all that fanatic about DB, but the routes section is important to me )
anyway, thanks again for the job done
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Unfortunately also in this new version I noticed some mistakes regarding routs....some routs are missing or are wrong, and I noticed also a mistake regarding some silhouettes : for examp. AT72 appear with a silhouette of AT75...
But the big problem still that I have to update manualy the routs , between updates :(
All the best !
Dana
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Thanks for that posting Dana which helps me decide what to do about my routes.
After consideration, I'll stick with my FL data and skip the latest download.
Given time I'm sure one can get used to KJFK - EHAM being Jamaica to Haarlemmermeer, to mention but one.
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Well done AirNav & updaters. BTW, I have just under 96,000 aircraft in the database according to Explorer.
Dave
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Dave
You may not have the newest version. The newest Navdata has over 101,000 aircraft.
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Just a heads-up for the next version, but 42 aircraft in this new database still have invalid ICAO Type codes (field AT), and there are around 611 aircraft types without silhouettes available.
Cheers for the assistance Tarbat. 42 out of 100,000. Thats a 0.004% error rate. Considering it has been a manual task and given what we inherited when we updaters started, I think that is a pretty damn impressive effort and a tolerance level that many companies could only ever strive for. If you are able to post the relevent 42 hexes on the database update request thread, we will have them sorted for you by the next release. Obviously you would not be able to see the benefit of and any ICAO changes we make prior to a further release due to the corruptions of the longstanding bug.
We have continued our strong pressure on Airnav to start creating new silhouettes, flags, dat files etc. They have a lot to look at in my opinion. We have recieved no word from Airnav as to whether these currently feature in their plans for any of 'five exciting releases' we have been promised for this calendar year.
Unfortunately also in this new version I noticed some mistakes regarding routs....some routs are missing or are wrong, and I noticed also a mistake regarding some silhouettes : for examp. AT72 appear with a silhouette of AT75...
But the big problem still that I have to update manualy the routs , between updates :(
All the best !
Dana
Airnav will need to confirm to you details of how the routes table was updated/changed and what data sources are utilised, maybe flightstats??
With regards the AT75, ICAO changed over the ATR codes in November. They are now as follows:
AT72
ATR 72-101
ATR 72-102
ATR 72-201
ATR 72-202
AT73
ATR 72-211
ATR 72-212
AT75
ATR 72-212A
AT76
ATR 72-600
As explained above Airnav currently have not produced a silhouette for these. Others that you will see regularly on the network without silhouttes include B748, G250 and GLF6.
Regards ACW367
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Cheers for the assistance Tarbat. 42 out of 100,000. Thats a 0.004% error rate. Considering it has been a manual task and given what we inherited when we updaters started, I think that is a pretty damn impressive effort and a tolerance level that many companies could only ever strive for.
Totally agree. It was not intended as a criticism, just something to work on for the next version.
Here are the 42 aircraft:
AR AT AN MS
09-72087 EC47 Eurocopter UH-72A Lakota AE1F66
B-4184 LJ36 Learjet 78C4A2
C-GZEM AA5B American-General AG-5B Tiger C08721
D-EFSY B207 Bolkow 207 3D13C8
D-EHKY B207 Bolkow BO-207 3D1840
D-ENVU B207 Bolkow Bo207 3D2932
D-KWER DIMP Hoffman HK.36TTC Super Dimona 3E9681
D-MLEG - - 3FEF1C
D-MPGG ECH0 Tecnam P.92 Echo 100S 3FECAF
EC-336 A330 Airbus A330 MRTT Test 343603
F-GOST C153 Cessna A152 Aerobat 393A53
F-WWKD A330 Various A330 test Airframes 38011A
F-WWKH A330 Airbus Test Registration 38023A
F-WWKJ A330 Airbus A330 Test 38017A
F-WWKP A330 Airbus Test Registration 38031A
F-WWKR A330 Airbus A330 Test 38035A
F-WWYC A330 Airbus A330 Test 38281A
F-WWYI A330 Airbus A330 Test 3828FA
F-WWYT A330 Airbus Test Registration 382A5A
F-WWYX A330 Airbus Test Registration 382ABA
G-CCVH P36 Curtis Wright H-75A-1 404BA5
G-CEJF PA26 Piper PA-28-161 Cadet 4012EA
G-CGVA A22L Aeroprakt A22L Foxbat 4064EF
G-OFTC A019 Agusta A-109E Power 4064B2
N10204 LC42 Cessna 350 LC42-550FG A00E97
N106TN M2OT Mooney M20TN Acclaim A01CB4
N1253L LAK4 Lake LA-4-200 A06911
N142CF B422 Bell 222UT A0AA56
N2ZM LNK4 Lancair IV-P A18F9C
N340GM C430 Cessna 340A II A3BDF0
N766P S78 Sikorsky S-76C AA5197
N926FD B757 Boeing 757-2S7(F) ACD45F
P4-A0D B25B Hawker Siddeley HS-125 Series 700A 48433D
R10-002 IL78 Ilyushin Il-78 50FF5E
RA-74040 AN74 Antonov An-74-200 152138
UD.14-01 CL4T Canadair CL-415-6B11 353041
UR-74026 AN74 Antonov An-74TK-200 508056
UR-YVA AN74 Antonov An-74TK-300 505072
VH-JSO Socata TBM-700 7C3026
VH-KFT Socata TBM-700 7C3367
ZS-KMD BN2 Britten-Norman B-21 Islander 009BB4
ZS-PAL DC83 Douglas DC-9-34CF 00A7B8
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Given time I'm sure one can get used to KJFK - EHAM being Jamaica to Haarlemmermeer, to mention but one.
Not sure I get the point, but this new database contains 27 routes between KJFK and EHAM, with airport names of John F. Kennedy International Airport and Amsterdam Schiphol. Are you sure you're using the new database?
CKS203, CKS206, CKS9533, DAL80, DAL81, DAL8775, DAL8805, DAL8806, KLM641, KLM642, KLM643, KLM644, KLM646, KLM647, KLM648, SOO6170, SOO6171, SOO6173, TFL293, TFL295, TFL297, TFL517, TRA473, TRA8253, TRA833, UAE9914, UAE9936
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Given time I'm sure one can get used to KJFK - EHAM being Jamaica to Haarlemmermeer, to mention but one.
Not sure I get the point, but this new database contains 27 routes between KJFK and EHAM, with airport names of John F. Kennedy International Airport and Amsterdam Schiphol. Are you sure you're using the new database?
CKS203, CKS206, CKS9533, DAL80, DAL81, DAL8775, DAL8805, DAL8806, KLM641, KLM642, KLM643, KLM644, KLM646, KLM647, KLM648, SOO6170, SOO6171, SOO6173, TFL293, TFL295, TFL297, TFL517, TRA473, TRA8253, TRA833, UAE9914, UAE9936
Hi Tarbat - the point as you put it is that I'm not using the new database.
As I understand things by using new database I could correct my airports tables but my routes would be again over-ridden by Airnav routes. Judging by the comments on here and elswhere these, while apparently much better, may still leave something to be desired.
I was rather hoping that the corrective action for the Mk1 database would have been selective - ie I could have corrected only the Airports for example - but this has presumably been impossible to achieve - a point VonS was making.
After the first download, it took about a fortnight using FD to restore my routes so it's not an easy decision. We'll see but I'm open to any advice or recommendations.
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Tarbat,
Many thanks for your assistance with the database. While 0.004% is a very small percentage, we will try and ensure this figure is reduced even further.
Using your list I have corrected the defects shown except for the A330 aircraft. As these are for test registrations, perhaps the generic A330 is best as we dont know which particular model will be using the hex but I will discuss with the other updaters.
Once again thank you for your assistance, it is appreciated
Alan
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Ok - some help needed here!
I've done exactly what it says on the tin, and I can see the new navdata file sat in the data folder (19,910kb with todays date and time downloaded), but it's not pulling anything through in terms of info
When I go into database explorer, there's nothing there at all?No tables, nothing?
any ideas?
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Something has went wrong somewhere Rich, my Navdata db.3 is showing 43.9Mb.
Alan
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Thought as much - lookrd a little light,although I tried a second time with the same file sizes etc
I'll start from scratch again
Thanks
Rich
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Is it safe to download this i mean will it make a mess of the installation i have or does it just update thanks janet
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It should just update Janet. Close down airnav, do the update and start up again and all should be well.
Alan
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thanks ill try it
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Tried four separate times now from scratch, and only downloading a file of 19.9Mb?????
Has anyone else tried to download the file from the link on page 1 of this thread in the last half hour or so??
Dev/Support - is the link still working ok?
Thanks
Rich
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Rich,
What's the size of the file "ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe" that you downloaded.
Andrew
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Rich,
What's the size of the file "ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe" that you downloaded.
Andrew
Hi Andrew
10.866Kb
I've tried direct run from the prompt, and also saved
not a clue what's going on/
R
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Rich,
That's the right size file. When it's installed and uncompressed it becomes around 45mb.
Did the update a month ago install ok?
Andrew
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Theres always one !!
Alan
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Ha ha ha...............
Sorry guys - just got sidetracked with City's blistering start in the Europa League match (you know the one Alan?)
Andrew - to be honest, I deferred from trying the earlier release, as I was overseas when it was released, so didn't have my box with me
Maybe it's pennance for giving AirNav such a hard time for badgering them for a re-release?...................................
i'll try again!
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I installed the new database, and all seemed OK at first, except I now seem to have lost all my Easyjet and Ryanair 3D model skins. They are just showing as plain white 3D models now !?
Any ideas ? (I have V4.03 and no other modifications).
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Rich sound slike somethings got a hook on the NavData, have you got a d/b accesing it or is radarbox still on when you are installing.
Alan
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Cool-1, Airnav will hopefully confirm, but I wouldnt think that the database update would do anything to the 3d models.
Alan.
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Jeez this is getting very very strange
Ok - I once again downloaded from scratch - this time (and to be honest, I can't be sure if this wasn't the case before?) the file downloaded at the correct file size.
Great i thought
However on opening up the Radarbox application, the Navdata file automatically reverts to what appears to be a blank file, with no data in it under any tables whatsoever (at a much smaller file size)- however, and this is the real problem, the backup file created by the process of downloading the new application, is also empty???
This happened during the time over which the RadarBox programme loaded
I've tried this separately twice now
But, it gets worse...............
I now appear to have lost all response from the network, and the 3D options also
Just about given up for the night
Alan - I've got a link into Aerodata analyser,but it's not actively running - I've also got an older verion of RadarBox on the laptop - with nothing linked, and the same happens??
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I installed the new database, and all seemed OK at first, except I now seem to have lost all my Easyjet and Ryanair 3D model skins. They are just showing as plain white 3D models now !?
Any ideas ? (I have V4.03 and no other modifications).
Yes, the same with german wings A319s or UPS 47s. And about half of the routings in my area (west germany) are incorrect. :-((.
Seems some work to be done . But where i can find the livery and how to put it in? And how to get the correct routings in the 2D map?
when ich put in the correct routing in the database, it only changes in 3D, but not in 2D map and not in the interface.
sorry when i m off the theme.
harvey
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I've read the two threads regarding the 'new' database and I ask again. If AirNav claim to be No.1 then why not supply a professional database. Again, I am not having a go at the hard working volunteers - I can't praise you enough, but shouldn't there be at least an option of securing a third party database for ANRB which is kept upto date and does not cause such grief to the posters above?
Surely such a database exists?
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Rich, is the navdata update going to the right version of radarbox seing as you have two on the computer?
Alan
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Rich,
Try doing a file search in the c:\ folder for NavData.db3, including sub folders.
If there's more than one NavData.db3 on your PC, what are the file dates, sizes, and paths. It should point us to where the new NavData.db3 was installed.
Andrew
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Hi all,
I have different versions of Airnav on my PC, but Iwork with ANRB 4.03 3D. Where should the new NavData.db3 be installed ? Does the Installer put Navdata in the right folder for 3D 4.03 ?
Thanks for your help.
Hosch
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I don't know how Airnav's database installer works, but it probably decides where to put the new database based on the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AirNav Systems\ANRB\1\General\AppPath
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Thanks Tarbat !
Hosch
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I installed the new database, and all seemed OK at first, except I now seem to have lost all my Easyjet and Ryanair 3D model skins. They are just showing as plain white 3D models now !?
Any ideas ? (I have V4.03 and no other modifications).
This happened with the 1st update & I posted about it
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=5882.0
........... but no-one answered, looks like the 3d users among us will have to wait for a fix..........
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There's no issue where the exe is dropping the new file as far as I can see, as the file is there , as the updated version (date and time checked), and showing the correct file size based on Alans observation
However, when i then open up that version (4.03 as it happens), it's as though the navdata file is overwritten with a totally blank file
When I open up in db explorer, as I mentioned earlier, there is nothing other than a totally empty "shell" - does anyone have any idea of the related file size of an empty database???? :-))
Begining to think it might be my laptop thats behaving funny, as I now don't appear to be able to re-instate the existing (self backed up navdata file)
I'll continue with all this tonight
Thanks for everyones help and suggestions so far
Rich
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Instead of running the link save it to the folder where you have the current version you run and run the update from there.
Also have you checked the other version you have and seen whats in there?
Alan
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Bob,
Im glad Im not the only one with this issue. I see Harvey above also has the same problem with 3D models since the update.
Did you report it as a 3D software bug and get a new ticket raised with Airnav support ?
Now there is more air traffic, I have carried out further investigation. I notice Im actually missing Easyjet (A319,A320) , Ryanair (B738) , Thomson, Thomas Cook, and British Airways A321, B744 '3d skins', to name a few.
Im also missing many 3D models completely...so I just have a load of empty-headed white marker stalks moving around eg. Aer Lingus (A320), Austrian Airways, Continental, KLM, and BMI.
So 3D is now looking pretty well porked after the update !
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There's no issue where the exe is dropping the new file as far as I can see, as the file is there , as the updated version (date and time checked), and showing the correct file size based on Alans observation
However, when i then open up that version (4.03 as it happens), it's as though the navdata file is overwritten with a totally blank file
Depending on you OS version and installation path, it's probably in the Virtual Store.
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For users with installation problems, there is a direct link to download the lastest navdata.db3 at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.db3
Regarding 3D problems: did this happen with this navdata.db3 update or with the previous one too?
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Yep -tried that also Alan
Don't know if this is relevant, but a s well as creating a new navdata file, there also two other files with similar file extensions
all named the same but one ending with ~
and another being a "journal log"
So thats giving me four in total - those two aboce, the new file, and the backed up file
Is this normal?
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For users with installation problems, there is a direct link to download the lastest navdata.db3 at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.db3
Regarding 3D problems: did this happen with this navdata.db3 update or with the previous one too?
Hi Airnav,
I would say only the occassional 3D skin was missing before the update (approx 1% ?) , but now I would say nearly 40% are missing since applying the .db3 update. I also never noticed the completely missing models before.
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In my data file I have 5 Navdata files.
1. NavaData db.3
2. NavData db.3 bak
3. NavData db.3 Journal
4. NavData.db3-stmtjrnl
5. navdata-backup.db3
Alan
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Possibly something to do with the 3d models problem. Taken from the previous update thread in answer to BobSen re no skin for A380.
Bob, the icao bug meant that these previouslymostly populated as A380. they are now in Navdata as correct A388. you need to make sure the skins you want are against both codes. again we updaters have previously highlighted this to airnav.
Alan
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For users with installation problems, there is a direct link to download the lastest navdata.db3 at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.db3
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I've read the two threads regarding the 'new' database and I ask again. If AirNav claim to be No.1 then why not supply a professional database. Again, I am not having a go at the hard working volunteers - I can't praise you enough, but shouldn't there be at least an option of securing a third party database for ANRB which is kept upto date and does not cause such grief to the posters above?
Surely such a database exists?
Could AirNav kindly comment please?
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Regarding 3D problems: did this happen with this navdata.db3 update or with the previous one too?
Yes it happened with the pevious update too...... I made a backup before I updated & had to re-install the backup.......... too many models & schemes were lost due to the update..
Alan - yes I did that at the time with the A380/8 & it did solve the issue with silhouette... but there are too many models to go through them all 1 by 1 in order to get the schemes back............ it was quicker to go back to the original backup
cheers
Bob
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For users with installation problems, there is a direct link to download the lastest navdata.db3 at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.db3
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With thanks to Dave Reid - http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.zip
Airnav, is this the right file for people to download?
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Hi Airnav,
I would say only the occassional 3D skin was missing before the update (approx 1% ?) , but now I would say nearly 40% are missing since applying the .db3 update. I also never noticed the completely missing models before.
For info there are way more than the "occasional" skin/colour scheme missing ..... , no biz jets for starters....... ;-)
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I cant see how the problem's being experienced come from the aircraft table therefore the problems being experience would still have occured even if a professional outfit provided the data. It doesnt matter the source of the data and if it is not the aircraft table that is causing the problems it must lay elsewhere either in another table or somewhere in the install routine.
One person out of all who have downloaded it for whatever reason cant get the update to install, this could be for any number of reasons which may even have nothing to do with the updater and may have something to do with the computer it is installed in.
The 3D problems cannot be coming from any part of the the aircraft table that the data the updaters provide so the problems people are having must be being caused by some reason outwith that and will probably have something to do with something Airnav have or have not done somewhere.
Do you have anyone in mind to provide an uppdate service Tramline as you asked the same question in the previous thread?
Alan
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The only thing that I would say Tarbat is that at 16.5Mb it is a couple of Mb larger than the the one that I have in my folder. Not being to computer savvy there may well be a good reason for that.
Alan
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Do you have anyone in mind to provide an uppdate service Tramline as you asked the same question in the previous thread?
Alan
Hi Alan, I was asking the question as I don't know but there must be such a service available even at a optional cost I would have thought?
Surely someone can shed some light on the options available?
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Tramline, there are commercially available database packages used by forum members that do that.
Alan
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Alan,
Thanks for that info, which leads me to ask why AirNav do not employ the use of such a database for their product?
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The thing is Tramline, if as i believe the problem has nothing to do with the aircraft table, what good will another data provider be it do in overcoming the problems being experienced by 3D etc. They would give the data to Airnav as the updaters do and Airnav send out the update. Somewhere after the handover the problem would seem to be occuring and thats what needs to be addressed.
The aircraft table cannot be seperated at this time as has previously been detailed by Airnav and it will need to wait till the next version of the software to allow aircraft details to be pushed out to users as and when they are added or are amended. This will do away with the need for Navdat updates as we know them now.
I also dont know how you would seperate arcraft details dependent on whether you paid extra for an updated database. how would this work for network traffic, would you only get details on aircraft that you had paid extra to access. and those that didnt wouldnt, would cause even more choas.
Alan
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Problem with 3D is identified and we discussing on how to correct it.
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We have created a new navdata.db3 which is being tested by two RadarBox 3D users. Stby for further news.
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For users with installation problems, there is a direct link to download the lastest navdata.db3 at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.db3
Yep - that's really helpful - directs you to a "dead" page - thanks a lot
no end of help with that one then eh?
Actually, to be honest, it was of equal use as the current download I've accessed
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We have created a new navdata.db3 which is being tested by two RadarBox 3D users. Stby for further news.
Hi Airnav,
Still getting problems with the new database you sent me. I have PM'ed the list to you which is a recent selection of all the 3D models or liveries Im missing.
I have also added a screenshot.
As you can see it makes things pretty unuseable, and must be a problem at the server end. (EasyJet is the only 3D model appearing on this random screenshot for example) :-(
o Livery missing (plain white)
AIR CANADA B77W ACA871
CITYJET / AIRFRANCE RJ85 BCY5006
Thomson B752 TOM6644
Thomson A320 TOM5XM
TUIFly Nodic B752 BLX985
US AIRWAYS A332 AWE733
NO 3D model (white stalk only showing)
Aer Lingus A320 EIN034
American Airlines B772 AAL105
AIR ALGERIE B736 DAH2054
AIR FRANCE A318 AFR2047
AEGEAN A321 AEE603
AIR CANADA B77W ACA871
AIR CANADA B763 ACA831
ALITALIA A321 AZ203
BA B772 BAW2203
BA A320 BA479
BA 744 BAW084
BA A319 BAW951L
DELTA AIR LINES B752 DAL197
DLH A321 DLH 6EW
easyJet A319 EZY5RP
easyJet A320 EZY4JL
EGYPTAIR B77W MSR985
Fedex B77L FDx10
KLM B744 KLM686
LUFTHANSA B735 DLH1JV
LUFTHANSA A320 DLH906
MONACH A320 MON 215
MONACH A321 MON581
RYANAIR B738 RYR18YM
TITAN B733
Swiss Int Airlines A333 SWR22B
Swiss Int Airlines A321 SWR202W
Virgin B744 VIR65
UNITED AIRLINES/ CONTINENTAL B752 COA55
UNITED AIRLINES B772 UAL 919
JET2 B752 EXS338
KLM B772 KLM744
KLM B738 KLM1147
KLM F70
Openskies B752 BOS003
Royal Air Maroc B737 RAM803
Small Planet Airlines B733 LLC3052
TAP Portugal A319 TAP355
THOMSON B752 TOM9DH
THOMAS COOK B752 TCX253K
TRANSAERO AIRLINES B734 TSO444
TUIFLY B738 TUI117
QUANTAS B744 QFA30
WIZZ AIR A320 WZZ109J
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We have created a new navdata.db3 which is being tested by two RadarBox 3D users. Stby for further news.
And another screenshot to demonstrate the problem....
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Alan
did a total reload of the RadarBox programme this afternoon, and spent some serious time sorting other issues out on my laptop, and you'll be no doubt pleased to here that the new file loaded ok!!!
Thanks for your suggestions of help, no matter how useless they were!!!!!!
;-)
Rich
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Glad you have got it working Rich, your computer skills are about as good as your football team :-))
Alan
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I don't know where you get information about aircrafts but I explored the database and CSA is a very disaster.
For Example: 49D011 for your new database of 23/02 is populated: N126AR
C208 Cessna 208B Grand Caravan 208B1004 CSA Czech Airlines
INSTEAD of the correct Airbus A320 1450 OK-GEB cn 1450.
The other are:
49D019 09-0662
49D010 G-NRIA
49D054 LV-WTV
49D067 N20CR
49D053 N27SF
49D04E N300MT
49D0BD N412MM
49D0AE N496PT
49D01A N511ED
49D094 N61BQ
49D09A N6229J
49D0AA N63CZ
49D025 N653KS
49D093 N707GH
49D0B4 N892AM
49D14C N89837
49D063 OH-CTE
all populated as CSA
Stefano
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Stephano,
I dont know where you are getting the data that you have just produced but I have just had a look and all the aircraft you mention are in the database correctly.
You either have some serious corruption or you are using an earlier database.
In addition to looking up the database I also looked in database explorer on my system and confirmed.
For example 49D011 has been in the database as OK-GEB since 29/05/2010
Alan
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Hi Alan, thanks for the reply.
I get the information from the database of 23/02. The only source for me.
I don't know what happened.
I replaced the old with this new one.
Stefano
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Stephano,
If my memory serves me correct there were problems with CSA aircraft on the data which came with your system, that is what is making me think that you are using the earlier database.
Do you have more than one version of the radarbox software on your computer, perhaps an earlier version which may have had its d/b updated instead of the version you are using. If you have upgraded to V3.13 or V4.03 since you bought your box you will probably have more than one version of the radarbox software in your computer. If you go into your airnav folder in my computer you should be able to check how many versions of radarbox are on your computer and ensure that the latest d/b has been installed in the correct location. for the current version.
If the lastest d/b is not in the correct data folder I would suggest that you download it again and direct it to the correct location, or copy it across between versions
Alan
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Stefano
Can I suggest you post some screenshots of the issue you report
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Stefano
Can I suggest you post some screenshots of the issue you report
ACW367
Ok, but only this evening now
Alan, I use only version 3.13 (what is the v4.03? the 3D?)
After post screenshot I try to reinstall this new db version
Stefano
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OK Stephano but I think it is the d/b location that is causing your problem as the current and previous d/b have the aircraft you detailed entered correctly.
4.03 is the 3D version.
Alan
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I had time at lunchtime.
Here is the screenshot from my database explorer with the CSA frames.
Thanks to both
Stefano
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Stefano, is that Windows 7 you're running? If so, what folder did you install Radarbox in, or did you just choose the default location?
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Never seen anthing like that, just had a look in my d/b explorer again and all is well do I dont know how you get that corrupt.
As Tarbat has asked did you install radarbox into c:/airnav or did you let it install using the default c:/program files/airnav folder.. If the later uninstall and install in c:/airnav as the virtual store in windows Vista and Windows 7 causes havoc.
Alan
Alan
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Hello Tarbat,
Yes I'm running Windows 7 since a few weeks. Can you wait until this evening so I can control in wich folder is this file. But I think is good because the mylog file contains the old data since march 2009.
Stefano
ps and OT: I need help from you for sql queries.
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Stefano
The CSA Air/FedEx Feeder C208 aircraft are correct. As you can see from the wiki page CSA Air is not to be confused with CSA Czech Airlines :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSA_Air
The others random non OK- registered aircraft mystify me however as to why they have that company field name.
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Stefano
The CSA Air/FedEx Feeder C208 aircraft are correct. As you can see from the wiki page CSA Air is not to be confused with CSA Czech Airlines :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSA_Air
The others random non OK- registered aircraft mystify me however as to why they have that company field name.
Yes, thanks but i queried all entries with CSA. So I don't consider the firsts...
Tarbat, the folder of mylog and NAVDATA is D:\Programmi\AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox\Data
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That could be the cause of your problems Stephano, you have the airnav folder in D:/Program files/Airnav.
Re-install onto your computer and ignore the default location the installer wants and re-direct straight onto the d/ drive so that you then have it in D:/Airnav when installed.
Putting it into the D;/Program files/Airnav/ in Vista and Windows 7 brings into use the windows virtual store which causes the problems you are experiencing.
Once you have installed re-installed copy across your mylog file into the data folder and down load the update directing it to your new folder and things should be right then. The previous Airnav can then be deleted from your computer
Alan
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Good evening all hope you are all well.
Im trying to download the latest database update but with not much luck.
Any hints.
Thank you.
Steve.
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Hi Steve,
I just went to the beginning of this topic and clicked on the link and away it went.
I ran it and saved it and it went ok each time.
Alan
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Good evening Alan hope you are well.
Been downloading from the first page but with no success.
In my database the totals are 80,000.
Is that correct.
Or is the dreaded virtual store in vista playing up?
Steve
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Hi Steve,
If it downloaded and run you would know about it. Try saving it to somewhere and run it from there.
I wouldnt know how to find out how many other than it should be over 100,000 going by the updater.
Alan
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Thank you Alan.
I have had a day off today and have been playing with the computer oop,s.
We are going to France soon and I was trying to download the new database so that I had some local French info.
Steve.
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If you want email me and I will send it to you as an attachment and see if that works.
Alan
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Steve, contact me by email again. Tried to send it but your end considered it a threat. Email me your address and I wil post a CD out.
Alan
Alan
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Alan.
Your are truly a gentleman.
This is why this forum works so well. People that are willing to go out of their way to
help another forum member.
I will send you my address Alan. Only if you let me bring you back some wine/champagne
from our trip in France which I will send to Scotland.
Steve.
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Get away wi you. Just send me your address.
But first have you tried this link from Page 4.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/Download/ANRB/DBUpdater/navdata.zip
Alan
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Steve
Here are a couple of pointers that may be of assistance, as I had great difficulty on Vista also (and Alan was no use at all!!! ;-)..........eh Alan?)
Make sure you only have one version of RadarBox on your machine - id three even though I only regularly use one, and it downloaded ok to whichever version I pointed it to, but on opening , somehow overwrote itself.
Secondly, if this doesn't work, take a backup of you current data files such as Mylog/logos/pictures etc (just in case you ant to re-use them), and then do a complete re-install of RadarBox
took me about seven or eight go's until it worked, after trying various options, and the only way it worked was via a re-install.
As Alan will no doubt concur, if I can get it to work, anyone can!!
Good luck
Rich
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Hmm, Help needed please.
I have read this thread thoroughly - aware that there are problems with missing 3D skins if I go ahead - can live with that (will be sorted in due course hopefully).
Have tried installing the new database - made no difference - presumably the file got lost in my Windows Vista 'virtual' black hole?
Just used 'Revo uninstaller' to try to completely remove all instances of ANRB from my system.
Then reinstalled ANRB 4.03 into a root directory (C:/Air Nav 3D) rather than default - I guess some registry settings were not removed as on re-starting it remembered my home lat/long.
Trying to run ANRBDUpdater20110222.exe to update my database - up-to-date tie-ups more important than 3D skins.
However, when I run this file, it obstinately wants to create a new folder under program files.
How do I get this new update to install in correct folder?
Any help much appreciated
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Good morning Alan & Rich.
Drama over.
I gave up last night trying to download the new database and switched the computer off(told by wife!!!).
Switched back on this morning and as by magic the new database is their. I think the word user error might fit here.
Gentlemen thank you for your help and time last night.
Steve.
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Glad you got it working Steve. Computers are great when they work correctly.
Alan
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Same problem here as Pinza.
When the Setup screen says "Click Install to continue with the installation, or Back if you want to review or change any settings." What does it mean?
My installation is at C:\AirNav Systems, so I hit the Back button to change teh settings and I am just returned to the "Welcome....Setup" page.
So how can I install the new database?
I'm sure there is a simple explanation, but please help.
Arthur
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Still struggling to install new database!
Arthur (artnco) echoes my problems in post above.
Now have further woe - when starting ANRB I am met with the message "DB is corrupted: NavData.db3. No valid copies exist"
But program begins to load and starts successfully - presumably finding old (but uncorrupted) NavData.db3 somewhere on my system!
Any ideas? Getting rather confused/frustrated now!
Cheers
Chris
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Are you running the update with radarbox off? I know you shouldnt need to but I do it that way.
Alan
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Are you running the update with radarbox off? I know you shouldnt need to but I do it that way.
Alan
Will try that - and report back later - many thanks!
Chris
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Had no joy getting installer to install update to where I wanted it to - let it create a new folder under program files and then cut and pasted relevant file to my intended directory.
Seems to be working okay - but one stange result:
Yep, I've lost 3D skins on Ryanair, easyjet and others (as pre-warned) BUT have suddenly got BA planes on Shuttle flights displaying correctly (in 3D) for the first time! Has anyone else noticed this?
AirNav have promised a solution to 3D problems "within the next 24 hours" - I think they also need to address the problem of the updater installer not allowing the user to specify where the update goes.
Chris
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We have created a new navdata.db3 which is being tested by two RadarBox 3D users. Stby for further news.
Chris,
Above came from AN on February the 25th. Today, it is March 4th and we are still awaiting the the new db.3 to replace the new db.3 unless it appears somewhere else !
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If you read the 3D models thread they stated last night they are still working on it.
Alan
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Alan,
Just as I thought. Aplolgies, it appeared on another thread. I do note however the use of the word 'standby' once again.
Ian
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Dear Users
Can you help i brought a 3d add on to an existing users radarbox that i purchase second hand my problem is i had to reinstall windows i then reintalled the 2007 version of the software then i added the 3d add on but when i log on it shows the 3d screen yet when i press start it reverts back to the default setting 4.03 and i am back with a 2d screen also when in account it says that is out of date Please Help tatto123
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tatto123,
Contact support, [email protected] with your PGANRB number as they require to do something at their end to set up and verify.
There has also been a problem since yesterdays server maintenance which is stopping 3D workin.
Alann
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I have been trying to install the latest database but to no avail. Properties says it is the latest update but when I click on Database it still shows 80k aircraft.
I tried uninstalling the "old" NavData file and installing the new, but still shows the same. Any ideas appreciated
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Brisbane,
You will in all probabilities have more than one version of Radarbox installed on your computer and the system will be reading the Navdata installed in the wrong place. If you had an earlier version of Airnav installed and then upgraded to a newer version, you will have them both on your computer
You can either,
Install the update by directing it to the correct AirNav Systems folder.
or
Use the search facility of Windows to find out how many instances of Navdata db3 you have on your computer and move the new update to the correct AirNav Systems/Radarbox/Data folder.
Let us know how you get on. Once you have got it working it may be an idea to delete the older version or versions of the software.
Alan
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Isn't this thread a year out of date?
tommyg
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Yes but this is the one the lad used. He did say he had downloaded and installed the latest one so I can only presume he has and not used the one on this thread.
Just in case, here is the link to the latest one http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=6749.0
Alan
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Hello,
I click the link address (green) for the database update and get a message from airnav,the file is unavailable.
can anyone confirm if the location has been moved.
Kind Regards
paul Mw0cvw
EGGP/EGNR
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Paul,
I just tried it and it works OK. Go to the reply above yours and click on that link. That will take you to the thread about the current update, click on the link on that thread and it should work OK, it just did for me.
Alan
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Sorry for the delay in replying, but relying on wi-fi connections abroad. Tried uninstalling ANRB on my"old" XP version. it is still stubbornly refusing to accept the database, despite it saying that the newer version is installed.
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Brisbane, have you tried searching for another installed version of Radarbox. If you have installed the update it must be in the wrong location.
Alan
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I am having problems with the AirNav 23 Feb DB3 download - keep getting Page not Found using the address at the beginning of this thread, also tried the Zip address shown later in the thread with the same response; and the address that Runway 31 says works states takes one back to the January 29 update thread, not the Feb 23 Update.
I read that Airnav are looking into some 3D issues so, AirNav, have you inhibited the Link?
GeoT
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Geot,
Please read things first, this thread started last year, the Feb 23 update at the beginning of this thread is from 2011. The one I gave the link to is the latest one published in January 2012.
Alan
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Sorry - my apologies. I did not read the date fully; the DB3 releases have been coming out on a near monthly basis for some months now and this AM I went looking for a late Feb one; saw this thread on my unread messages and assumed it was about this year. Did not think that 2011 stuff was still hanging around.
GeoT
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when i want to download it . Error page not found
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A new navdata.db3 installation is now available:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/DBUpdater/ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe
This has been the result of an amazing work developed by our database updaters volunteer team. The database now contains over 100 thousand aircraft records.
Hope you enjoy it.
I cannot download this file as just shows 'Page not found' contact Airnav!
X
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X
That is an out of date file from February 2011, the current file is on a sticky thread at the top f the page.
Alan