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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: bushfire on November 03, 2013, 01:18:24 PM

Title: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: bushfire on November 03, 2013, 01:18:24 PM
Had my radarbox for over two years+ now.
It was a niche thing back then, spent considerable amount of money on the unit, the cable and the external antenna because there was nothing else apart from the competition to airnav... that would do what I wanted to see......
Now seems that anyone can see what I can see via "at least 3" websites that I know of show the same data "in real time" that i have my dedicated unit, pc, antenna and pc for. Side by side comparison, there's not much difference + I can see data that my hardware can't receive, eg. interstate and worldwide.
Now I see that Airnav have the radarbox24 running...
Please give me a reason why I shouldn't trash the hardware??
Please!

 
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 03, 2013, 01:27:12 PM
What do you do if you dont have internet access?  For me my box and RB24 compliment each other and I take my box with me wherever I go and depend on no one else to let me know whats around.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: bushfire on November 03, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
"What do you do if you dont have internet access?  For me my box and RB24 compliment each other and I take my box with me wherever I go and depend on no one else to let me know whats around."

No internet access?? Who doesn't have internet access these days? Even have internet access on my mobile 99% of where I travel.. so again why keep the hardware?
Talking reality now not assuming!
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 03, 2013, 02:00:34 PM
Its up to you to make your choice, you do what you consider to be best for you and if you think you will be better off throwing your box in the bin who are we to stop you or try and convince you otherwise.

I cant afford 24 hours internet access when mobile especially on the continent or worldwide with roaming rates being what they are and its not unknown for the internet to go off even in the UK and there are plenty of places in the world where the internet is not great, thats reality.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: RodBearden on November 03, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
I really like the fact that RadarBox keeps a log of the planes that it picks up, and that it picks up military and ga aircraft that don't have ADS-B so won't usually appear on the free websites. In the States, that will apply to a lot of domestic airliners too, unless you put up with the FAA's 5-minute delay - not much use for spotting!

I also prefer the look and feel of RadarBox and the fact that it's much more customisable.

And if it wasn't for people like us, the free websites couldn't exist anyway.

Rod
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: bushfire on November 03, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
"I really like the fact that RadarBox keeps a log of the planes that it picks up"
That being 1 reason to keep it, but now you can buy an sdr usb unit for 20 euro and use a freeware program to log that data... ummm radarbox vs's sdr and freeware  hmmm

Runway21 yes I know it''s my choice. Just want some reasons for not using the internet for what I can receive with hardware anyway.. no internet access is not really an issue.
RodBearden had an answer to my question TY
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 03, 2013, 03:19:04 PM
You already have the box and have shelled out the money for it so it isnt going to cost you any more, no brainer really.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: tarbat on November 03, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
For me, Radarbox offers many advantages over web-based alternatives:
Email alerts
Log history
Daily log reports
All the military aircraft and coastguard helicopters, etc.
Absolutely no display delay for hardware received aircraft
QNH altitude correction
Smart Filters
More "professional" map display
Low (or none) internet bandwidth required

I can't see why you would want to throw all that away, and then spend more money on a low quality, low sensitivity SDR that's not optimised for 1090mhz, and inferior "freeware" software.

ANRB vs FR24
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: CYYZGUY on November 03, 2013, 04:25:20 PM
Well said Tarbat.......I find with the recent upgrades, my radarbox is working better then ever.  I am more addicted to it now then I was the first day I got it.

regards,

Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: neroon79 on November 03, 2013, 06:22:34 PM
Just a thought, if we all (sharer) would say: Hey there are websites now let's throw away our boxes we don't need them anymore... All these nice and useful websites will die, because most of them were fed by boxes/software like Radarbox, SBS or the new low-cost ("toy") dongles (which in my opnion only become some kind useful, if you are purchasing pp too).

Ingo
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: EK01 on November 03, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
Bushfire,

Don't know where you live but you should come over here to Spain for a visit and see what internet access we have to put up with. It's more like 'rubber band' than 'broadband!' and that's definitely talking reality.

Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Marpleman on November 04, 2013, 07:32:58 AM
I see the benefit in owning a box but also having access to web sites. FR24 and in particular, its positional reporting of ga types, smaller airliners etc, makes an ideal partnership, as the majority of biz jets currently only display position with little or no reg tie up.mlat and plane plotter are beyond mu IT abilities,but now I can tie almost everything using the two sources.

Also means there's no point in me subscribing to the RB network
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: bushfire on November 06, 2013, 08:43:04 AM
All valid points ty for the answers.
Not going to bin my hardware it was a figure of speech. Sorry
The sdr's at the moment, a cheap altenative was an example.
So is airnav selling their data to these sites? I'm assuming they are? Might be wrong
Anyway thanks all for the feedback, I might have been a bit hasty with my post never thought about half the options I have that others don't.

Just a quick question while I'm here, where is the option to turn off "permanently" the share flight data in the preferences settings? 
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: CoastGuardJon on November 06, 2013, 10:38:59 AM
"Just a quick question while I'm here, where is the option to turn off "permanently" the share flight data in the preferences settings? "

There isn't one!
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 06, 2013, 11:10:56 AM
I can assure you that Airnav doesnt sell its data to other trackers, that would be counter productive.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: AV61 on November 06, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
Hi
Well I agree with those that say it keeps a log of all aircraft it picks up and I personally endorse the comment box with a "Y" if I have actually seen the plane.
My only personal regret is that I cannot see from the radar view if I have already seen the aircraft without having to keep looking at each plane in My Log
So if the programme writers are reading this is there a way of doing something so that aircraft I have seen can have some indication against them when they appear on the screen.
Nick
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 06, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
Nick,

There is a new field on the grid CO which can be used for this and which can be updated through d/b explorer.  Just remember to set N so that it is not synced to the server.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: AV61 on November 06, 2013, 11:48:25 AM
Thanks runway will have a look
When I click on text to find (to find aircraft reg)
What is condition. BY.  or  IN
which one do I choose

Nick
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 06, 2013, 12:01:39 PM
I dont think it really matters but I usually use IN

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: AV61 on November 06, 2013, 12:11:02 PM
Alan

Sorry to keep picking your brains but ...
I have 3969 aircraft I have seen  and have marked Y in the comment box on my log
Is there a quick way of transferring this info into the database CO box
Or is it a case of Find the reg then alter each one at a time.
Is there a way of when I enter Y in the comment box it replicates in the CO box on the database
For the said aircraft

Cheers
Nick
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 06, 2013, 12:22:14 PM
No quick way Nick, one at a time I am afraid.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: AV61 on November 06, 2013, 12:26:19 PM
Yes had a nasty feeling you were going to say that
Thanks anyway
Nick
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: AV61 on November 06, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
Final question Alan
Once I have changed something in the database
Is there a way of showing the update without having to close down and reopen the
Programme

Nick
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Runway 31 on November 06, 2013, 01:42:31 PM
No Nick, updates take place the next time the program starts.

Alan
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: CoastGuardJon on November 06, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
bushfire post #12 "Anyway thanks all for the feedback, I might have been a bit hasty with my post never thought about half the options I have that others don't."

Hey bushfire, you were just playing 'devil's advocate' weren't you.................?
Title: Re: Why own a radarbox unit??
Post by: Marpleman on November 06, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Just to re-iterate posts I made a couple of years ago on the forum, for the keen spotters amongst us,several independent spotting database provides have customised interfaces that sit on top of the Radarbox screen and identify which aircraft within "my flights" have not been logged on the independant database. I personally use Aerodata and it works a treat.
If I have say 40 live aircraft in my flights, I am able to immediately see which I've never seen before

Pm me if anyone wants to know more