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Title: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Development on August 10, 2008, 03:48:58 AM
Today our Forum reached the magic number of 1000 users.

This represents the continuous growth of AirNav Systems which now has 80% of the market share in sales in the ADS-B receiver market with our forum growing at a rate 3x faster than our competition forum.

Be prepared for the release of the next version of our software in 2 weeks: now officially called "AirNav RadarBox 2009", version 2.0. Many new features included as described below:

New Features:
- Satellite Layer - similar to Google Earth projections;
- Auto Download flight origin/departure - never miss flight information;
- Aircraft Silhouettes automatically drawn;
- Flight Tour Feature - scroll over all flights automatically
- Screen Shot FTP Auto Upload - share received views automatically;
- Share Squawk on Network;
- Several new fields in Mylog tables (ADS-B, first/last position, altitude, ground speed);
- Callsign/Route appear on MyLog Reports;
- MyLog by default orders by last time on both aircraft/flights table;
- MyLog new search options
- Major airport outlines included by default
- 1209 airline Logos
- 408 civilian/military flags
- Optimization of MyLog feature to enabled millions of flight entries without affecting apprlication performance
- MyLog refresh shortcut (F5)

Congratulations to all our users and we expect to reach the 2000 mark soon!
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: mt007 on August 10, 2008, 06:46:51 AM
Good day,
congratulations to all.
Is a great mark.
Next stage, 2000!!! :)
Regards
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Team on August 10, 2008, 10:23:34 AM
Here is a demonstration FTP screen shot upload to a website as being tested.  Note that this is not running all the time, but you will always see the last screen shot uploaded.

http://www.ruyton.demon.co.uk/html/radarbox.html

If anybody wants to see a particular part of the world, just post a message here and the screen shot might change :-)
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: belgianguy on August 10, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Would be interested to see the northern part of belgium.


Thank you very much for the nice view of Belgium.
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: Terry on August 10, 2008, 10:47:58 AM
Congratulations to all at Air Nav Systems on reaching this benchmark,no doubt 2000+ will soon come round the way the product is gaining popularity,and of course the helpful members on the forum +the back up from ANS suppoprt team,well done,keep up the brilliant work. regards terry
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: DaveG on August 10, 2008, 10:55:49 AM

Be prepared for the release of the next version of our software in 2 weeks: now officially called "AirNav RadarBox 2009", version 2.0.

Congratulations to all our users and we expect to reach the 2000 mark soon!


Great news and Airnav are doing well :)

Now how about giving us the ability to undock windows and move them out side the main windows and onto other monitors.

I know this has been talked about before and you've said its on a list, but it never seem to get into any update builds!

Please review this....
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Support on August 10, 2008, 01:05:33 PM
Hi DaveG,

Last time that was mentioned we explained this would need a complete change of the Graphical Interface which could cause development a major headache.

We haven't forgotten about it and every new update we will see whether its possible to add it.
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: tarbat on August 10, 2008, 03:19:25 PM
http://www.ruyton.demon.co.uk/html/radarbox.html

Any chance you could provide some simple HTML to use to display an auto-uploaded screenshot.  I've got an auto-upload screenshot at http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/RadarBoxScreenShot.gif but want to wrap some basic HTML around this to test it.
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: Allocator on August 10, 2008, 03:44:02 PM
This will refresh the page:

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60; URL=http://www.mydomain.co.uk/radarbox.html">

and something like this to display the gif screen shot

<td width="633" class="TextObject">
      <p style="text-align: center;">AirNav Systems Live RadarBox Screenshot - Refreshed every 60 seconds</p>
      <iframe id="InlineFrame1" name="InlineFrame1" src="http://www.mydomain.co.uk/radarbox/RadarBoxScreenShot.gif" width="700" height="860" frameborder="0"></iframe></td></td>
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: GlynH on August 10, 2008, 03:56:24 PM
Hi DaveG,

Last time that was mentioned we explained this would need a complete change of the Graphical Interface which could cause development a major headache.

We haven't forgotten about it and every new update we will see whether its possible to add it.


Not quite what you said in response to my saying that without this feature it could be a showstopper for me prior to purchase;


That feature is on the to-do list and will be implemented with 100% guarantee. The problem is that V1.6 is in final testing stages so there is no time to have it ready now (for V1.6). Please keep your suggestions coming.


Don't go getting cold feet on me now...I see I'm not alone in wanting this feature! :-)

Great news about the growing membership - I think I 'sold' another one to a friend yesterday...that makes three now...;^)

I am curious though as to how you 'know' you have 80% of the market share?

There are far more members over at the other side which to my mind may indicate more sales - it certainly indicates a wider user base - not to mention the fact that the SBS-1 advertising appears to me to be more widely marketed?

Keep up the good work - here's looking forward to v2.0 - I hope it has nailed all the problems I am having which incidentally I have reproduced on four other machines now...

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Support on August 10, 2008, 05:49:41 PM
Ok its another post where we have to spell out that not all requests from users can be done due to cost, time and the affect it will have on development and also the percentage of customers who would like it.

We never said it would be done in the next update nor did more than 5 customers request it (more of nice if it could) so please do not stir things by posting on another topics as well.

Regarding RadarBox it is now easily outselling the competitor and our dealer network is much larger. These are facts and nothing to do with forum members. Remember other competitors have been selling for more than 2 years before us.
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: DaveG on August 10, 2008, 06:01:18 PM
Hi DaveG,

Last time that was mentioned we explained this would need a complete change of the Graphical Interface which could cause development a major headache.

We haven't forgotten about it and every new update we will see whether its possible to add it.

Thanks for the reply and I understand it would be a major (but good) headache.

The post above this one worries me some as it seems to indicate it will not ever be done, also the wording of "request" and "nice if it could be" are these not of the same.  I remember a few post, one mainly where people posted on the topic and a lot more than five.

But I understand you have to look at cost against need, so will sit back and hope that one day undocking windows makes it into Radarbox, as this would be one major advantage over the competitors software and a big step forward for radarbox.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: besty on August 10, 2008, 06:15:05 PM
I can use the database explorer on a seperate monitor and leave it open all the time, also the 'my log', not much else needs to be moved. but thats only of use if you have 2 monitors and not many do.
I mainly use the secondary monitor for Icom pcr1500 and altering the database and doing any work that needs doing, only just trying this out as the secondary monitor was only bought today.

Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Support on August 10, 2008, 06:17:29 PM
We agree it would be great for multi screen users. However two major factors which is the cost of having to change the Graphic User interface is large and also the amount of people who have requested is low. Therefore it is on the list but not high priority.

The wording was from emails we got from users who said it would be nice to have but they also had other requests above which they deemed more important themselves.

RadarBox 2008/2009 regardless has many advantages of competitors :)
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: GlynH on August 10, 2008, 08:41:50 PM
AirNav,

I see that I appear to have 'rattled the natives' and for that I am sorry.

I am also sorry that you seem to confuse my enthusiasm and desire to improve what is already a good product with 'stirring things up'...<sigh>

However I am old, ugly & big enough to realise my comments have rubbed some of you up the wrong way and for that I apologise unreservedly.

I appreciate and understand that not all requests from users can be done due to cost, time etc. and I was not asking for *that feature* to be done in the next release - in fact your reply to me in the forum implicitly stated, quote;

"That feature is on the to-do list and will be implemented with 100% guarantee. The problem is that V1.6 is in final testing stages so there is no time to have it ready now (for V1.6). Please keep your suggestions coming."

This was prior to my purchasing the RB and as I said it would have been a showstopper for me but your assurance that it would be implemented with 100% guarantee (and your fantastic response & presence in this forum) was what made me go out & buy two immediately. With another one coming.

But then I read your reply to Dave earlier in this thread it seemed to me that you had backed off somewhat from your original statement which was what sparked my last few posts...

Great as any new feature is I for one would be much happier if you channelled your development time into improving stability & reliability rather than add extra features - including my oft-touted 'undockable windows' feature request...

That's not to say it is unstable & unreliable although it does seem to suffer its fair share of 'undocumented features' but as I have said previously I am not going to waste time going over old ground as I am assured you have ironed out most if not all of them for 1.6/2.0 ;^)

I guess it's time for me to shut up now or to coin another oft-used phrase of mine 'put a sock in it

;^)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Development on August 11, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
>I am curious though as to how you 'know' you have 80% of the market share?

Just go to any shop and ask the guys there. Unless you go to our competition distributor that despite all these new features will continue to say that our competition software (kind of a spectrum 48K look) is more stable... :-)
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: GlynH on August 11, 2008, 02:00:51 AM
>I am curious though as to how you 'know' you have 80% of the market share?

Just go to any shop and ask the guys there. Unless you go to our competition distributor that despite all these new features will continue to say that our competition software (kind of a spectrum 48K look) is more stable... :-)

Well I asked in Tesco's and they had never heard of you! ;^)

Seriously though 'go to any shop & ask' is hardly scientific or factual is it?

Your 'competition' produces a big, glossy double page advert with a whole column that takes up a third of a page proudly proclaiming 8,000 users can't be wrong' (they can) but I don't believe their claim either :-)

With regard to advertising I just browsed through Radio User where the competition scored 3-1 against - the first itme I looked I missed the single 1.5" RB advert buried as it is at the foot of a page...

That same magazine also has a column dedicated to the other system although it is heartening to see that the mentions of RB seem to be increasing.

You did pull off a coup though being associated with the fascinating BBC 'Britain From Above' and getting a mention in the credits.

Fascinating program and well done Air Nav (two seperate words?)

And I'll tell you something else - after visiting your distributor and your 'competition distributor' it isn't W&S who will be getting my money in the future for anything radio related...what an experience that was.

If it wasn't for the fact that I had a friend with me who wanted to buy I would have walked...

You are right about one thing though - when the 'competition' demonstrated their system versus yours they did point out that their software is much faster & more stable. Strangely however they were proved correct as I have found this to be the case when I have installed RB2008 on 4 other systems. Roll on 1.6/2.0

Looks much better though...:-/

I had better point out this is not 'stirring things up' but speaking as I find.

I saw both systems in action and much preferred the RB and so voted with my wallet and don't regret my choice for one second.

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Development on August 11, 2008, 02:09:59 AM
Thanks for your reply.

>third of a page proudly proclaiming 8,000 users can't be wrong'

They are on this market for more than 3 years while we are on this specific ADS-B receiver market for one year only.

It is important to say that in 3 years their "Spectrum looking" software did not have any important development and that those 8000 users where wrongly and suggested to buy their system because of their network feature that never existed.

Actually they don't have the know how to develop such a high tech system. Our network currently processes more than 5 millions ADS-B messages per day.

Also talking about customers AirNav Systems is on the flight tracking market for 11 years and has now over 30 thousand users (taking in account all our products).

About Radio User magazine: we have been in contact with their editor for several months now taking in account their point of view for these systems. It seems this magazine does some favors in trade of advertising...

PS: AirNav is just one word, not two separate words. :-)
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: AirNav Development on August 11, 2008, 02:20:44 AM
>Seriously though 'go to any shop & ask' is hardly scientific or factual is it?

Being scientific is impossible in this case. Also the mentioned 8000 units sold for our competition are not scientific too - in fact it has been reported to our team that they jumped serial numbers to achieve this value when we moved from distributors to improve their marketing (instead of developing their software).

Anyway to these things we answer with new releases and software improvements.

BTW: to check differences between both products:
AirNav PDF Document - RadarBox vs Competition
Title: Re: Forum reaches 1000 users!
Post by: Steve R on August 12, 2008, 06:52:58 PM
Hi All,

Just to say I think it's great to be part of 1000+ forum members, as I've mentioned before, I'm very impressed with the commitment & support that Airnav have shown.

It's refreshing to see a company support & update it's customer base as much as Airnav do.

It is also good to see that forum members are enthusiastic about the product & I'm sure Airnav will agree

I say lets have 3 cheers & for everyone, as everyone from the Airnav Team to it's customer base continue to have input & strive to better an already brilliant product.

As the saying goes from the film 'Hancock' GOOD JUB! lol

SteveR