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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on September 26, 2011, 01:29:56 PM
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A new navdata.db3 installation is available on the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/DBUpdater/ANRBDBUpdater20110925.exe
Changes:
1) Updated aircraft table;
2) Updated flight number database;
Again thanks for the hard work of the database updaters team.
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Many thanks to all involved.
It's a much smaller file than before - I assume a lot of pruning has occurred.
Rod
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First: Many thanks for the next Database release.
Just noticed, that it is now impossible to run the updater with RB software running. For me this is an inconvenient modus-operandi. I usually decompress the file into the Airnav root-directory and manually copy it into the correct folder during times of very low traffic. Futher I'm usually checking the content of the new database with third party db Software, before I start using the new db file. I'm aware of the fact that this new way will prevent not so well trained users from making errors during the update precess or asking questions like: "I did the update, why I'm not seeing any differences" or "but the update hasn't worked". Please, is there any chance for a release without the "is the RB software" running check. Or do I have learn to live with this new inconvenience (annoying-ness)?
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Ingo,
The updater has always required Radarbox to be offline while making the update, nothing has changed.
Rod,
It was the same with the last update, it about half the size of previous one. I asked the question and was advised that they were using a new method which was more efficient.
Alan
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Ingo,
The updater has always required Radarbox to be offline while making the update, nothing has changed.
Really, in this case this must have been the first time, that I tried to install the Database file on a PC with software on duty. Well, in this case I'll have to set my clock-alert to wake me up at 2am, shut down my rb software, install new db file re-start rb software and go back to sleep for further two or three hours until I'll get up. ;-)
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Ingo,
When directing users to the updater on the forum we usually warn them to stop Radarbox while making the update. I'm sure if you took the time to go over the various update threads you would notice it.
I'm no expert but wouldnt think that it would be a good idea to be using a database when all the data is being changed, I think it would cause corruption at the very least.
Alan
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During the "real" overwrite process I'm stopping the software of course. Anything else would result in a mess in more than 90% of all cases.
But I prefer the following update precess:
Unpack in root-directory (because this usually needs some time. Especially on Netbooks and other "weaker" PCs)
Stop software and rename old db file into .old
Insert already copied new db file
Re-start Software.
Proceeding this way I get a shorter OFF-time than the shut down software, use installer, re-start software procedure.
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Many thanks to the updaters concerned for their continued enthusiasm and comittment to the task!
Keep up the good work guys!
Regards
Rich
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Since the update the route info is much more complete, even getting info for medi-vac flights and exec jets, bet you can`t get the data for the " Cobham " aircraft. ;-)
Well done and many thanks, Dave.
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Many thanks indeed to the guys involved in this work and the current update.
I liked the idea that it was released on my birthday...really fitting present for someone who enjoys this hobby immensely and has been involved in aviation from photography to model making to aircraft preservation..
Thank you :)
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I have read with interest the hard work being carried out by the updaters and that some have held off changing their own databases as, like myself, they have worked on theirs over a number of years and feel reluctant to change. My question is, am I missing out by not updating now and is the current update above just changing the list of actypes and routes in Database Explorer. If it is changing the aircraft database then is it possible just to update the routes list on its own. Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Keith
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The work of the db Updaters is targeting the aircraft-list. The updates to the routes-list is as far as I know done by Airnav itself. Further there is now "easy" way to update only a part of the Database like the routes-list.
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Thanks neroon79, thats what I thought with regards the routes. Could perhaps the Updaters give us an idea on how much work has been done on the database and do they update from new registration lists currently being publishished on sites like Yahoo Mode S group which covers updates from countries including USA, Canada etc.
Regards
Keith
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Several different sources are used, including information gathered via Mode S group. But many small aircraft from Germany for example are added by db Update requests posted by other users (like myself), who have sometimes dug out the details from the internet by hour taking searches or personal Mk1EB confirmations on spotting tours.
You can find some Stats about the updaters work on this page: http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/dbstats.php
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We would recommend updating. To gain benefit of all the aircraft that we have added (currently 126,000). We trawl many,many sites for new information including:
the Mode S group,
Puget Sound Boeing blog,
Skyliners,
Aiways North American Fleet Updates,
OTTSpotters
and the Houser747 World Registers updates
to name just a few of the many regular places we visit for info.
For regions were the national authorities do not publish national registers on the internet like the UAE and Germany we are very grateful to Ingo, X and others who share their personal observations with us via the data updater thread.
We also get a feed of all hexes recieved on sharing radarboxes for further investigation. Unfortunately this also currently includes all the spurious corrupted codes caused by the decoding errors inherent with the radarbox.
Airnav have also made some changes to the airport table, for example Newquay Cornwall, Doncaster Sheffield and some additions to Chinese and Japanese destinations. We have no control on the routes, which is purely with Airnav, the number of routes in the tables has been pared right back by Airnav, in order that the software then looks back to the servers for new routes info.
Regards
ACW367
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neroon79 & ACW367,
Thank you for the insight. I have spent an inordinate amount of time in updating my database but find it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain of late due to a change in my circumstances. I have been following the work by the updaters with interest but was always reluctant to convert. I think it is time to bite the bullet.
Regards
Keith
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Keith, several month ago I was there, were you are now. I had Spend hours to fill my own Database with local airframes. And then it happened: Fatal hardware crash. Databases in use: terminated, Backup on other partition on same HDD: terminated. Unfortunately another quite actual Backup on USB drive was also corrupted. I had to go to a several month old Backup. All work until then: Lost. At this point I decided to take another way: Since then I post all unknowns with details I'm able to dig out to the Updaters. Preceding this way I'm able to get "my" airframes back even if all local back-ups are gone to nirvana.
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Hello neroon79
I know what you mean as it almost happened to me about a year ago. Luckily my backup was only a few days old and downloading it did the trick. The truth now is that it was becoming to big to maintain and I only had approximately 86,000 records of which their was still a considerable amount that needed checking. I downloaded the update yesterday and used it today not that it got much use this far North but I had no problems with those I did manage to pick up. Thanks again to you and ACW367 for your advice and considerable thanks must go to all the updaters.
Regards
Keith
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I downloaded the update yesterday and used it today not that it got much use this far North but I had no problems with those I did manage to pick up. Thanks again to you and ACW367 for your advice and considerable thanks must go to all the updaters.
Regards
Keith
Thanks Keith. As we said above, if you find anything on any aircraft record that you feel needs changing, let us know via the database update requests thread or the via PM and we will quickly look at them for you.
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Posted by: ACW367« on: Today at 11:25:51 am »
Thanks Keith. As we said above, if you find anything on any aircraft record that you feel needs changing, let us know via the database update requests thread or the via PM and we will quickly look at them for you.
Hi ACW367
I have been monotoring a number of unidentified aircraft in mylog and spent a good hour or so trying to fill in the missing details. The results have now been posted on the update tread. Also working on a few more but finding them a little more difficult. I will keep trying but may have to call on you at some point.
Thanks again.
Keith
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Keith
If you post the remaining blanks that you have in the update forum, we will be able to assist you in the search for tie-ups. As you can see from that thread, with regards to the German GA aircraft, it often takes the mark one eyeball of the people in Germany to identify the aircraft. If we can also find nothing from the various places we look through, we will let you know.
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Posted by: ACW367« on: Today at 03:24:17 pm »
Keith
If you post the remaining blanks that you have in the update forum, we will be able to assist you in the search for tie-ups. As you can see from that thread, with regards to the German GA aircraft, it often takes the mark one eyeball of the people in Germany to identify the aircraft. If we can also find nothing from the various places we look through, we will let you know.
Hi ACW367
I will work on it today/night and post on the update tread.
Regards
Keith
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This is an analysis result of Navdata.db320110925.
Please refer to it.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/nature/kuro/RDBX/exposition/Navdata_db3_20110925.xps