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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: RodBearden on November 17, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
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I wonder if it would be a good idea to have a thread devoted to reporting new locations of network RadarBoxes. Looking at the Network Locations map just doesn't do it. Perhaps people planning trips to new locations could post here too, to alert us.
Jakarta, Indonesia, is live as I type this. The network grows....
Rod
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It would make a lot of sense, but there are some here who are particularly secretive of their location, even as far as not wanting to give away which town they are in. I suppose they have their reasons.
DC
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How many are boxes are networked, i think i read that 5500 boxes have been sold, how many of these are being networked, i would like to get some idea before i take out my network subscription, i appreciate that people do not want their locations known, but surely AirNav can see how many boxes are being networked??
Thanks
Steve
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What we need is something like we've got for the Planeplotter community - see http://scooterhound.com/WWWR/ships/sharelist.html?dir=PP&typ=hyb (http://scooterhound.com/WWWR/ships/sharelist.html?dir=PP&typ=hyb). Then those of us that don't mind disclosing our location could put a pin on a map.
Anyone have any idea how to set something like that up?
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Prehaps we should do a bit of a poll, to see who would be interested in showing where there rough location is. I for one would not mind showing my location.
I know there is some people in senitive locations, but I think that most people would not object to a rough location being shown - lets find out
Cheers
Andy
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I would willingly create a map of locations if anyone cares to let me know where they are....even just to how many in each country
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SteveB:
The number of boxes on the network is plotted in the chart on the Network Locations Map - just scroll down - it also logs the count of network flights.
Everyone:
My idea for this thread was that we just reported new areas that network flights are coming from - we've had endless discussion about the accuracy of the Network Location Map, and possible improvements, in other threads. Perhaps AirNav have a plan...
Rod
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As an experiment - if you've got a Google logonid, then collaborate on this map to share your location
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba
As I say, just an experiment to see if this works and is useful. Just click on the EDIT button next to "Collaborate", and add a new pin.
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Added mine to the map
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Looking good. Anyone else want to add their location?
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This wasn't what I had in mind when I started this thread, but what the heck - I'm in, even though I had to get a Google account to do it!
Rod
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Just added mine
Denis
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Just added mine to the map
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Sorry Rod, I know it's not what you had in mind! Although, it appears to be a fairly popular idea, so if people want to add their locations (10 locations so far), maybe this can become the way of us knowing where other Radarbox locations are.
I'll see how it goes, and if enough people use the map, then it should prove useful.
RADARBOX LOCATIONS MAP (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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I wasn't sure if I could do it - but I can - I've changed the title of this thread - hope that's OK with everyone ;-)
Rod
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I see Placemark11 is in the middle of the North Sea. For some reason, I hadn't reckoned on RadarBoxes on oil rigs!
Excellent stuff!
Rod
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Hi
Just added mine to the list
Andy
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I see the oil rig sank - ah well! Perhaps one day we'll get one there!
Rod
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Sorry Rod
That was me working out how to place it - sorry have sorted it now to the right location.
Andy
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Evening All,
Just put Sale onto the world map !
Cheers
Phil
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Brilliant. Deadcalm is on board.
Airnav, with everyone's co-operation, potentially better than YOUR user map !! How about making this a sticky thread, so it's always at the top?
DC
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Added my location in Liverpool, will be sharing my data when i renew my yearly subscription
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This is all great fun, and very interesting, and I've never played with a collaborative map before, but let's remember that it doesn't show who is actually online, and it only shows us active forum members - there are probably lots of RB users who wouldn't mind sharing their approximate location but who never take part in the forum.
I still think the proper solution lies in AirNav's hands.
Rod
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I'm fairly isolated in my neck of the woods, and would love to know if there's a possibility of continuous coverage between me and, say, the UK or central Spain. It would be useful to know if there were RB users elsewhere in France, regardless of whether or not they are on line. Relying on IP details just doesn't cut it.
So this a good idea. And maybe Airnav could consider sending an E mail to all RB owners (if they have their addresses, of course!) to specifically remind everyone that this forum exists, and encourage them to participate?
DC
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just added my location in the Isle of Man
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Rod, I agree. Although in the short term, it's probably the best we can do, given Airnav's concerns about the privacy of their customers.
MAP (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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just added northumberland onto the map
paul
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Okay, we've got locations listed on a couple of continents now.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/3040769412_6cf4633318.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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I have saved the KLM file from the map, so I can use it in Google Earth.
Very impressed within Google Earth - shows user name too.
Andy
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added my location, seems i'm the only in Belgium so far, but i know of a couple of other RB users here, i'll try to contact them.
for the moment i have a very limited reception with the indoor antenna ; depending wich room i'm in, i get trafic from northern Belgium, western Germany and Netherland up to Schiphol when i'm in the north faced room,
or when i'm in the southers faced room i get southern Belgium, Luxemburg and northern France past Charles de Gaule.
of-course, most of them are high flights, FL250 +
when i'm in the "north room" i can get trafic at Brussels ( EBBR ) from aprox 1400ft
hope to improve this early next year by installing a outdoor antenna.
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24 Radarboxes on the map now. Would anyone else like to share their location?
MAP OF RADARBOX LOCATIONS (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
Remember, if you'd rather not share your exact location, then just stick a pin into the map someone near your location. Thanks.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/3043704118_e11031d39b.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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Hi Chris, I placed my order today. I'm happy to be 'mapped' - 5 miles South of LHR.
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Tramline, I've put a pin on the map for you approx. 5 miles south of LHR. Look forward to seeing your traffic on the network in a few days time!
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I have added my location to the map. North Bay, Ontario, Canada.
Paul@cyyb
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I don't have a google account but you can add my location 1 mile north of Derby.
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OK Blackthorn - you're now on the map - thanks!
Rod
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I've added my QTH. 15 miles SE of Mildenhall, 2 miles SE of Bury St Edmunds.
Tom
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New user from Northern California. Just pinned my location. Really enjoying RB so far!
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New user from Northern California. Just pinned my location. Really enjoying RB so far!
Welcome :-)
Tom
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Just added my position in southern Austria near the VIW - VOR.
cheers
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Hi RodBearden ,
Don' t have a Google account.
Please add my QTH : 5nm West of COA / VOR ( Costa , Belgium ) .
Thanks.
Dan.
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Hi Dan
I can't see VOR's on the Google map - can you tell me where you are in relation to towns?
Thanks, Rod
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Dan, I've had a go at placing your pin. Hopefully it's close enough to the COA.
32 locations now on the map.
MAP OF RADARBOX LOCATIONS (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3044842205_b27015cb49_m.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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HI Rod and Tarbat .
Of course Google don't display Vor stations , sorry about that .
Tarbat , you are close but to be exact , please pin it on a village named HEIST.
Thank you both .
Regards
Dan.
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Lambertw, just added my position,I am aprox 10mls from Doncaster/Robin Hood airport on the southern approach start.
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24 Radarboxes on the map now. Would anyone else like to share their location?
Yes, but I don't know what to do. I have Google Earth on my PC.
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Either:
1. Follow the link to Google Maps, and add your pin - http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
2. Tell us roughly where you live, and I'll add a pin to the map for you.
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tarbat..
My location is Hendon, N/W London. Can you stick the pin as close as you can to Hendon Underground station as I am quite close to that.
My grateful thanks.
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Done!
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Nice one...thanks tarbat.
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Hello Tarbat, can you add my location for me please. I'm in Peterlee, Co. Durham. between Hartlepool and Sunderland on the coast.
Cheers
Besty8
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Hi Besty8
I've added you to the map.
Rod
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thanks Rod,
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Hi,
Could Rob or Tarbat please add me to the map.I'm in the middle of Chesterfield (Derbyshire).
Thanks
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You're on the map, Dumpty!
Rod
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Cheers Rod (Not Rob;-))
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Well done to all this is realy starting to give a good picture of where all the boxes are located, come on you overseas guys lets get you on the map
30 locations and counting
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Rod,
could you put me on the map please, I am on the M4 between Swindon and Bath.
thanks
TONYG
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OK Tony - you're on the map.
I can adjust the position of the pin if you like.
Rod
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Rod,
yes , please move it to Corsham on the A4. I thought it would be ok where you put it but it will be a few miles off.
TONYG
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Corsham it is!
Rod
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Thanks Rod,
all looking much better now we have true locations!!!!
TONYG
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Hi, Rod or Tarbat, could you enter my location as Stafford, UK. Many thanks. Bethsalem
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We personally know users/beta testers in:
Fortaleza, Brazil
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Ponta Delgada, Azores
Kuwait City, Kuwait
Salmiya, Kuwait
Salwa, Kuwait
Yokohama, Japan
El Paso, USA
You can add them.
Do you need their forum usernames?
(some of them are not on our forum).
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Bethsalem - you're on!
Rod
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Hi Rod,
could you pin me to Luxembourg City. Thanks
Hosch
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I'm on the map!
Allocator
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I've added the locations provided by Airnav Dev, but made these yellow pins to indicate an approximate location not yet confirmed by the actual user.
MAP OF RADARBOX LOCATIONS (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/3049154905_71c733d37f.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
UK coverage is looking good. Just goes to show why I still use PLANEPLOTTER, as I'm the only one in Scotland :(
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Interesting comparison to current live network map.
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Just added my pin...
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Just added mine too, Chichester UK
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Hosch - your're on now!
Rod
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Now added to the map are the approximate locations (Town/City) of all Radarboxes sharing. Thanks Airnav.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/3049590243_b7158ecbd2.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
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Hi Tarbat, can you move my pin to Staines. Thats a few miles to the N.E of the current pin.
Ta!
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Tramline, done.
One problem now. We've got too many pins to display them all on the map, so you have to goto page 2 to see the rest of the pins.
Or, view in Google Earth using the attached KML file.
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Yes I see the problem tarbat, do you think it would be a good idea to remove the BLACK = Approx. location of all Radarboxes.
Andy
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I'm not sure. The black ones are really useful data provided by Airnav of actual boxes sharing, so potentially more reliable than anything else.
When the Rugby finishes I'll see if there's a better solution. Unless anyone knows how to get Google Maps to display all pins on a single map?
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Tarbat - perhaps you don't need the black dots that duplicate the pins, for example, Chorley doesn't need to be there twice, unlsee you know otherwise!
Rod
PS - Sorry I interfered with Australia before I saw what you were doing - I'll leave it to you!
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Okay, I've deleted the black ones, and put those onto a separate list.
USER SUPPLIED LOCATIONS (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/3050634974_6c6db2d016_o.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
AIRNAV SUPPLIED LOCATIONS (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045c496990623bbfcfd)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/3049794073_a56eb4416c_o.jpg) (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045c496990623bbfcfd)
I should add that the second map is based on a list of Towns/Cities, converted to coordinates using http://www.batchgeocode.com/ , so may not be totally correct!!!
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Sorry I interfered with Australia
so did NZ in the League match!
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But Scotland beat Canada :)
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Added my location, Burgess Hill, 12 nm south of LGW
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Just a reminder to anyone with a RadarBox connected to the network that you're very welcome to add your pin to the map - you don't need to be precise - just your nearest town would be fine.
If you have a Google ID you can add your own pin, or just ask on this thread, and we'll add it for you.
Click here to view the map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba)
Rod
PS could yulilgit please move his pin to somewhere on the planet? ;-)
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could yulilgit please move his pin to somewhere on the planet? ;-)
I note that yulilgit isn't actually a forum member.
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Hi Rod, Can you please add me on the map, If you zoom in on Llangollen, then go directly south you will see Glynceiriog that's where I am located.
Many thanks. Peteeds.
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OK Peteeds, you're on the map.
Rod
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Rod -could you add me to the map please. I am in Stone in Staffordshire
Thanks
mjleprix
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mjleprix - you're now on the map.
Rod
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Hi Rod,
May as well add me to the map if you don`t mind,i`m in Banbury,N.Oxfordshire,thanks.
Regards Terry.
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OK Terry - you're on.
Rod
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Many thanks Rod, Looks like youv'e had a busy afternoon.
Peteeds.
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It's too cold for any gardening - come to think of it, it's always too cold for gardening!
Rod
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Yep I totally agree, I only have 2 gardening tools here, A wife & a wheelbarrow.?????
Cheers.
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Whats the wheelbarrow used for?
Regards Terry.
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to carry peteeds to hospital if the wife sees this post :-)
wife saw one of my post a will back just starting to walk straight now
cheers paul
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I have exactly the same door knocker as you,makes your eyes water at first,but when the stitches are removed it takes a month or two to walk properly again,must be a woman thing(no sense of humour)?.
Regards Terry.
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Hy Terry, Wife does the garden = wife loads wheelbarrow = wife wheels the barrow to the tip = ##### ouch what was that for ??????? sugar was going to buy her a new chainsaw for christmas but I think i will give that one a miss.
getting a bit off topic here.
CHEERS ALL PETEEDS.
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Hi would you be able to change placemark 63 to say waddington1 usually 24 7. I don't know how to change it.
Many thanks
stu
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Hi Stu - that's done.
Rod
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Wow thats great. Many thanks
Stu
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Hi,
could anyone put me on the map please, I live in Germany, South East, Near BAYREUTH - 20 KM South East - Village SPEICHERSDORF
Position AIRNAV: Latitude: 49,8833 - Longtitude: 11,7873
Position Google Map: 49,522434 - 11,460329
thanks
Herbert Braun
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Hello hebraun - Welcome to the forum
Have put you on the map, check to make sure its in the right place
Andy
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I'm done.
I've been off work recovering from an injury, so I've no excuses really, except that I'm not very IT literate....it's taken me 2 weeks to figure out how to put a pin in my location...
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hi,as soon as i get my rb can give you an exact location ,extremely good idea!
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Rod,
I stay in East Kilbride. Can you please put the location on the map.
Cheers,
Ian
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Hey folks, I have just become a member of google, and got the map up now but unable to see where I can add my own Blue Pin?
James
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Goto the map I setup, and click on the edit button.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba
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Bailey_uk added, Windermere, Lake District!
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B777200ER in KATL at Lat. 33.86295 and Long. 84.46588 please add me to the list. thanks
Donnie
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Hi Donnie
I have added you to the map, Just check to make sure its right.
Cheers
Andy
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Andy right on the money. thank you sir.
Donnie
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Tarbat - I've just placed my pin - now there seems to be two of us in Scotland ! But where are all the planes ........................??
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Great to see another RB this far north. Well, today, all the flights that tried to get into Inverness diverted over to you at Aberdeen!!
Traffic volumes vary so much up here, based on which transatlantic routes are being used.
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EK01 - Hi Ian - I've been away, but I've put you on the map now. Let me know if you want the pin moved at all.
Rod
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Added my location, expecting to be active within a few days but not on a continuous basis.
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Bratters signed on.
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Thanks to all who have added their pins - it's very interesting - those who haven't yet added theirs, we'll do it for you if you want to tell us your location - you can PM me if you're shy!
Can I ask Kilcosy, Bill and Holger to review their pins - they seem to be in unlikely locations (that's Placemarks 70, 74 and 75).
Thanks, Rod
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Thanks Rod. Location looks good to me.
Cheers,
Ian
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Well, when I set up this map, I didn't realise how successful it would be!!! We now have over 80 of us on the map, which gives a good indication of where users are really located.
Remember that we also have the other map I setup using the list of people sharing on the Radarbox network, which is based on City/Country entered by users in Radarbox.
User Provided Locations - http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba
Airnav Provided Locations - http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045c496990623bbfcfd
And here's a picture of the two combined on a single map.
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Added Winchester, Hants to the map
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Please add me to the map ( at work at the moment so cant sign up to the google thingy )
Co-ord's are Lat 55.1629 Long -1.6908
Cheers
Bat 21
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OK Bat21 - you're on - let me know if it needs adjusting.
Rod
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Would appreciate it if you could also add me to the map.
My co-ordinates are LAT 53.6859 and LONG -0.3553
Many thanks.
Big I
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Done - Big I - you're there. Again, let me know if you want it adjusted.
Rod
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Hi all
I've just added my location on the map.
Stéphane
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Something I've added for my pin on the map is details of where my screenshot is uploaded to. So, from the map, you can now see a preview of my current (5-min delay) coverage, and click on the link to see the full-size image.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=105277615186365824795.00045be4dc8f432ddcfba
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Hi All, Just added my location to the map.Box is usually on most of the time waiting for something interesting.
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Hi Spikem - welcome to the map and the forum.
Good to see more of us in the North-West of England!
Rod
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Rod,
seems my pin has slipped off the map, could you put it back on please.
Corsham in Wiltshire.
Cheers
TONY
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OK Tony
You're back home now!
Rod
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Hi!
I've only had my radarbox for a few days, I'm still sorting it out but want to put a pin on the map...how do I do that?
Thanks Dave Lewis.
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Give your location and someone will add it, unless you have access to googlemaps and you could add it yourself.
Stuart
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Hi besty8!
Thanks for the reply here's my lat & lon :-
N50.07 W-5.61 if you or someone can add me.
Dave.
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It's ok Dave, I'm not able to do it but now you've put it on here someone will do it for you. Enjoy the radarbox and if you get stuck just ask someone will help out they're a good bunch on here.
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Hi Dave
Can you give me a town or village name, Please? I make your Lat/Long location somewhere off the Scilly Isles!
Rod
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I make your Lat/Long location somewhere off the Scilly Isles!
I think you're confusing minutes with decimal degrees.
N50.07 W5.61 is roughly halfway between Mousehole and Land's End, near Saint Buryan, according to Google Maps.
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Hmmm... I think I must have had a senior moment - I knew that ".61" couldn't be minutes! And my Google Earth is set for decimal, too.
Anyway, davelew1s is on now, possibly in the right place.
Rod
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Hi Rod!
St Buryan is just about perfect..thanks for adding me...I'm not on line all the time but as much as I can. At the moment I'm using the supplied aerial on a pole outside the window, but the short cable restrict the height I can get, and local buildings are blocking some signals, I'm going to play around with this aerial in different places.
Thanks again Dave.
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Can't seem to stick a pin in. Any help to stick my pin in NP44 would be appreciated!
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Hi Trainerwales and welcome!
You're now on the map (you have to have a Google account to edit it or add a pin)
Rod
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Hi
I have received my RadarBox today (can't wait to get home!). I have marked my location on the map (Wokingham Berkshire)
Cheers
Colin
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Welcome, Colin - enjoy!
Rod
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I just want to bump this thread to remind new members to please add your pin to the map if you want to - or tell us where to place a pin for you if you don't have a Google account.
Rod
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Hi
Trying to do this. Logged into Google Maps but can't see any edit button?
Graham
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Neither can I, Graham.
Investigation in progress (don't hold your breath!)
Rod
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The map appears to be editable now, as long as you have a Google account.
I've just added kdt1 in Minnesota.
Rod
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Well I must be missing something here...either that or I'm too stupid to find the Edit button and add my location...
I have clicked on the links given earlier by both Rod & Chris and get the map up on the US.
I enter my town and off it goes, centres it and sticks a red 'A' on my town but then...
What next?
I appear to be signed in as I can see my email address at the top of the page along with a 'Sign Out' button...
Mind you I don't see anyone else on the map and I believe Terry has already been added on my home town...but he won't mind as he is in Torquay at the moment!
Idiots Guide anybody please? ;^)
Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Hi Glyn - I'm afraid the idiot got to it first!
In another thread, Tarbat reported that the map had been sabotaged, and the project has been abandoned. We should have put a notice to that effect here.
We're still hoping, possibly in vain, that AirNav will create something similar in the future, and the ball's now in their court.
Rod
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I'd be willing to try setting up a map in Google again, if anyone can tell me how to prevent others assigning collaboration rights to the map.
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Ah...that would explain why I couldn't see or add anything on the map then...
If I even knew what you meant by preventing others assigning collaboration rights to the map I might be able to help...;^)
Wouldn't it be possible to host the map on a private website and assign read only rights to it?
Well apart from the user who is hosting the website of course...:-)
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Wouldn't it be possible to host the map on a private website and assign read only rights to it?
If I knew how!! Maybe we would get something setup on http://radarbox.gofreeserve.com/
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I'm game if somebody could point me in the right direction.
The advantage of Google Map is that you can pan and zoom. A static map of the whole world just isn't going to be any good.
Edit: I need to do a bit of reading up regarding the Google Maps API - too late tonight!
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I've started something now...;^)
The race is on!
Have a great weekend!
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Would a Google Earth .kml(?) file work? One person could update/produce it, then it could be downloaded from the Utilities website and displayed using Google Earth as required.
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I hope you're not asking me Gary?
Don't forget I'm the one who spent half-a-very-frustrating-hour trying to add his pin to a map that doesn't exist any more! ;^)
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Don't worry Glyn, I think that I might be talking myself into this job!
I won't be able to do much until next week, but maybe people who wanted to participate could send their approximate positions via the RadarBox Utilties webmaster address, then I could create the kml file?
More reading for me to do here!
http://code.google.com/apis/kml/documentation/kml_tut.html
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<kml xmlns="http://www.opengis.net/kml/2.2">
<Placemark>
<name>Simple placemark</name>
<description>Attached to the ground. Intelligently places itself
at the height of the underlying terrain.</description>
<Point>
<coordinates>-122.0822035425683,37.42228990140251,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
</kml>
The structure of this file breaks down as follows:
* An XML header. This is line 1 in every KML file. No spaces or other characters can appear before this line.
* A KML namespace declaration. This is line 2 in every KML 2.2 file.
* A Placemark object that contains the following elements:
o A name that is used as the label for the Placemark
o A description that appears in the "balloon" attached to the Placemark
o A Point that specifies the position of the Placemark on the Earth's surface (longitude, latitude, and optional altitude)
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OK, making some progress here :-)
Here is a Google Earth kml file with 3 fictitious RB locations just to the west of Wrexham UK. They are a bit close together, but if you zoom in you will see all 3. If you have Google Earth installed, either download the attached file and double-click on it, or run Google Earth first, then use File > Open > RB Location Test.kml
The naming options are:
Name - This is what shows on the map
Description - This is what you see in the balloon when you click on the point.
I did change the icon from the pushpin, but I seem to have lost that somewhere ....... need to read the instructions again :-)
What do you reckon, worth giving a go?
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Works fine for me, Allo' :-)
Only problem is that you seem to have the job of inputting everybody's pins, and it's not going to be updated regularly, especially if you insist on swanning off on holiday!
Rod
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My Base Location
<Placemark>
<name>JGRLoit Home</name>
<description>Hexham.</description>
<Point>
<coordinates>54.9686,-2.1049,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
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Can't we do something like the Planeplotter user map - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9543/WWWR/ships/sharelist.html?dir=PP&typ=hyb&siz=2&lat=20&lon=-90
That uses a Google Map, but on a private web-site.
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Works fine for me, Allo' :-)
Only problem is that you seem to have the job of inputting everybody's pins, and it's not going to be updated regularly, especially if you insist on swanning off on holiday!
Rod
Yes, you are right - it depends how many people want to join in :-0
At least it would mean that no s***y ****** would be able to trash it! I'll give it a go and put the latest kml here every so often, then upload it to the Utilities website sometime next week.
I warn you all - I may get bored with this :-)
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Can't we do something like the Planeplotter user map - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9543/WWWR/ships/sharelist.html?dir=PP&typ=hyb&siz=2&lat=20&lon=-90
That uses a Google Map, but on a private web-site.
I don't know - looks a bit beyond me that. I suppose that this used the Google Earth API?
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Could you ask Airnav to provide a file of all sharers' town/city/country. It's what they provided to me last time, and we really just need an up-to-date list from Airnav of all sharers' town/city/country. You can then run that through a little utility that I used last time to generate map coordinates, and post that as a Google Map.
Just trying to save you some work in updating a map all the time!!
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Hi Tarbat Allocator,
Can you add me to your map. My village is St Margarets At Cliffe,Nr Dover, Kent. And can you tell me in simple english the easiest way toget on to it.
Thanks, Colin Hall.
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In theory, we can do this to our current network map.
1.) Plot position of customer based on the there town/city, country location. (Mark as Blue Marker)
2.) If no details above entered we can use the method used at the moment from IP to Geo location (Mark as Red Marker)
Does that sound helpfull or not? Of course this relies that the town/city entered is correct and not vague.
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This is the format used by the kml file - note the "back to front" co-ordinates
<Placemark>
<name>JGRLoit Home</name>
<description>Hexham.</description>
<Point>
<coordinates>-2.1049,54.96860,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
Bear in mind that you might want to add an "approximation" to your location rather than showing exactly where you are. Google Earth shows exceptional detail in places.
Well, that's 3 of us on the map now!
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In theory, we can do this to our current network map.
1.) Plot position of customer based on the there town/city, country location. (Mark as Blue Marker)
2.) If no details above entered we can use the method used at the moment from IP to Geo location (Mark as Red Marker)
Does that sound helpfull or not? Of course this relies that the town/city entered is correct and not vague.
The Town location sounds good to me. It's probably not worth bothering with the IP location as this has proved to be somewhat inaccurate.
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Here's mine:
<Placemark>
<name>RodBearden</name>
<description>Chorley</description>
<Point>
<coordinates>-2.6350,53.6350,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
Rod
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Thanks Rod.
Off to dinner :-)
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Link to the RB Locations.kml file now pit on the RadarBox Utilities website, along with instructions on how to be added. Link to hacked Google Map removed.
http://radarbox.gofreeserve.com/html/locations.html
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Airnav, I definately prefer the idea of using the customers town/city/country. I used http://www.batchgeocode.com/ last time to convert these to map coordinates.
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We had a quick go in the last hour
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network3.php
The blues shows the IP locations and Red is from Town, Country looked up from Google.
Problem is google maps is having trouble finding locations for a lot of them and also it seems to ignore requests to look up sometimes which means it shows as all blue markers.
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Link to the RB Locations.kml file now pit on the RadarBox Utilities website, along with instructions on how to be added. Link to hacked Google Map removed.
http://radarbox.gofreeserve.com/html/locations.html
Now with 150 mile range ring to show approximate coverage. Tarbat's automated kml production is the way ahead here, as entering these points manually would soon become unmanageable.
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Discovered that you can host maps on http://www.batchgeocode.com/ as well.
Using the Airnav locations file from November last year, gives the following map:
http://www.batchgeocode.com/map/?i=e36468ca22d44aca636a4bedbeda6d61
And here's one using the 157 locations from Airnav's current map in yesterday's post:
http://www.batchgeocode.com/map/?i=2eb991ccf33097745b737db433bf6608
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Looks similar to the one we created yesterday showing the geocoding, its seems to be working well today with most being looked up from there town and country.
We can make it look nicer by changing the markers so they are smaller?
Do you want this method to be put on the 2 main network views which are linked on the website?
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As you say, your map seems to be working better now, it even reacted to me starting to share again and put my real location (Portmahomack) on the map.
Yes, make the markers smaller would be my preference.
Looks excellent!!! I just hope that working on this map isn't delaying the work on v2.1 ;)
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The map is done by support not development, so no delay :)
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Ok we have updated the 2 pages on the main site to have it look up via town and country as well as the IP.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network2.php
As the look up is too google it takes a few seconds longer for the positions to appear on the map and also sometimes it may only show IP positions if google is busy.
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Ok we have updated the 2 pages on the main site to have it look up via town and country as well as the IP.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network3.php
As the look up is too google it takes a few seconds longer for the positions to appear on the map and also sometimes it may only show IP positions if google is busy.
Hi Support, this link doesn't work for me................:-[
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Sorry change links:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network2.php
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Looks good. Thanks to Airnav Support for taking on-board this suggestion.
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Have I missed something here, my location is not on either map, should we have told someone our location or was all the info taken from the first map - the one that was messed up.
Andy
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Andy, it's taken from the City/Country data you've setup in Radarbox. Preferences>Home Station Data.
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Ok mate, so it is what I entered in preferances part of the software - I will take a look, I am sure I put Dereham in there.
Andy
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Yes I was Right - It must have been missed - In Preferences>Home>Station Data I Have -
abrad41
Dereham
England UK
And my e-mail address
Andy
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Maybe Google Maps is having problems understanding the England UK bit. Try just England, or UK. And you must have sharing turned ON, and it takes 10-15 minutes for your location to appear on the map.
I have City=Portmahomack Country=Scotland, and mine's showing okay on the map.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3441/3381180627_b50fedd772_o.jpg)
Airnav support, there's still a lot of BLUE pins on the map. Any idea which Cities/Countries are causing the problems?
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Mainly the following causes the blues,
1.) Customers enter Near Heathrow or Near London which google does not like.
2.) They don't enter anything
3.) They mask there location i.e (town = "I am not telling you")
4.) Google finds two towns of the same name in the UK and returns nothing.
5.) Google times out looking for it
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Ok I have changed it, will let you now what happens.
Andy
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At the moment the 2 maps are showing all Blue and no Red.
Andy
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Yes, Google Maps doesn't seem as good at resolving place names as http://www.batchgeocode.com/ is.
I see Dereham is on the page, as:
geoStuff('Dereham','England',52.0333,-0.85);
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tarbat
It seems very hit and miss - I just looked and there nothing near Dereham at all.
When I looked a little while ago there was a pin near Kings Lynn - But when I looked this it was not there - strange
Andy
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Its the google service as explained before if its too busy it will ignore the look up request and we then use the IP location.
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Airnav, the map at http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox/network.php now seems very reliable, with very few BLUE pins at all - excellent. I see also that the reception circles are different sizes for some pins - intrigueing:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3385790438_20d64c0e2d_o.jpg)
The map at http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network2.php still has lots of BLUE pins though.
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They both have the same code except for the circles. Its depends on googles mood for the lookup.
The circles are different not because of range of each station but because the world map means areas closer to the north look bigger.
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Don't see a pin on Kingston, Ontario, Canada - have been sharing for a while - feel free to add one - whoever does that at AirNav.
I'd be interested in knowing my neighbours (ON, NY, QC) if there is a way of doing that?
Cheers
Neil
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Don't see a pin on Kingston, Ontario, Canada - have been sharing for a while - feel free to add one - whoever does that at AirNav.
If you've got your City/Country setup in Radarbox (Preferences:Home Station Data), it should appear on the map.
Only appear to be two in Canada at the moment:
Montreal,Canada
VERDUN,CANADA
And a tip. If you want to see if your location is getting onto the map, just view the source of http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php
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Interesting - I see that Chorley is defined in the source of the map (twice, with two different positions - the lower case one is wrongly situated in Hampstead), but doesn't appear in the drop-down list in Preferences.
So I'm not on the map :-(
Rod
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Interesting - I see that Chorley is defined in the source of the map (twice, with two different positions - the lower case one is wrongly situated in Hampstead), but doesn't appear in the drop-down list in Preferences.
The coordinates listed in the source are the position of your ISP.
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Hi,
I have read through this thread and it appears I have everything setup correctly. I have tried entering my actual town and when that didn't work, a larger city south of me, and I am not able to get plotted on the map. I am watching a person south of me in Seattle come and go on the map as he receives ADS-B returns. We don't get quite as many aircraft with ADS-B in this part of the world so it is a bit of an on and off affair at times.
I am wondering if my shared information is getting out at all. It is setup to share in the settings.
It would be nice to know if my shared information is getting out and what I can do to get plotted on the map.
Thanks
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Send support a mesage and tell them your login code (PG..) and they can confirm whether you are sharing on the network by checking the network stats.
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not sure how to add to map but you can add mine at preston lancashire england
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Hi Carp and welcome!
I'm just down the road from you in Chorley.
Just make sure you select Preston in File...Preferences...Home Station Data, and you'll be added automatically.
Rod