AirNav Systems Forum
AirNav ShipTrax => AirNav ShipTrax Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on November 29, 2007, 12:26:59 AM
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We are in the final stages of the development of "AirNav ShipTrax". It is a completely new application from AirNav Systems which marks our entrance into the Marine market.
Instead of ADS-B signals (as with RadarBox) it receives AIS signals (ship auto position messages). It includes an worldwide ship location network and a database with over 120 thousand ship details.
The application is very similar to AirNav RadarBox 2007 with the already well known superior interface.
First Public Screen Shot is below.
Hope you enjoy it. We are totally open for any possible suggestions.
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Does this include an AIS type receiver in the package? Many of us who use a similar programme from another source already have our own dedicated AIS receivers.
It sounds fantastic if the software package can be purchased on its own!
Although I may be sited 15 miles inland I get good coverage of Harwich and its approaches so if you require any Beta testers in the field, my set up will stretch it as it did with RB!
Peter
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I would like to be able to import my own maps and delete your charts if you are going to use the "approximate" map as in RB. It would be very unrealistic for ships to sail over dry land on harbour approaches which I'm sure will happen if the RB type of connected straight line drawing was used. A link to Earth Browser would be a great help.
Peter
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We confim that AirNav ShipTrax is the software only. It is already compatible with NASA Marine AIS or any other NMEA output device. You can even opt to receive data from a TCP/IP connection. So the answer is that the user may opt to buy the software only or the software+hardware if needed.
Regarding maps adding previously created: we have sent a personal message to Peter and waiting for a reply. More suggestions are welcome.
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very interesting, have tried other ship tracking software but did not get along with it at the time. Can you clarify when you say "receive data from a tcp/ip connection" does this mean from your own hardware or a network system that will be available if you have no hardware?
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I live too far from the sea to make any use of an AIS engine to pick up my own data but I would be interested in a program only set up using the internet.
AirNav Would it be a one-off payment or a yearly subscription, which you seem to favour with the aviation products?
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Not confirmed yet, when it is the price details will be announced.
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Like RoadRunner, I live too far from the sea to pick up live AIS signals, but I do want to be able to use ShipTrax so I hope that there is a network only option that works for me.
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I think the cheapest way to go would be one of the "software radios" like the
ICOMs. I believe they all have IF/discriminator access.
Any other radio ideas to get into ShipTrax fairly cheaply?
CK
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I think the cheapest way to go would be one of the "software radios" like the
ICOMs. I believe they all have IF/discriminator access.
Any other radio ideas to get into ShipTrax fairly cheaply?
CK
The NASA AIS engine seems to be fairly popular here in the UK. I haven't actually got one, as I won't be able to pick up the transmissions from home. However, it is cheap enough for me to "have in" just in case I drive to the coast for the day. As I mentioned earlier, I'd like to try ShipTrax with Network only data if I can, then get the AIS engine later.
http://www.allgadgets.co.uk/ag/product.asp?pf_id=AG3933&dept_id=1
http://www.nasamarine.com/AIS/AISENGINE.html
There are some more here too, but no prices.
http://www.katas.co.uk/
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With the AISEngine module I take it you only need the GPS input if you want to plot your own location?
CK
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With the AISEngine module I take it you only need the GPS input if you want to plot your own location?
CK
Yes, there is software you can use at sea as a sort of "radar" to help with the visual lookout. I've just received the NASA AIS engine with some trial software, but I'll have to take a trip to the coast to try it out!
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With the Canadian dollar up so high that price of 97 without vat is attractive.
Especially a 2 channel engine like that. And I live in a port city, Vancouver.
I have line of sight to the Straight of Georgia where the vast majority of shipping arrives in this area.
CK
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CanadaKen: that is great news. Do you already have an AIS receiver like NASA AIS Engine?
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No, AND, I don't....this would be my first. It was either that or one of the USB
radios with the IF output. If that AISENGINE is 2 channel that's a real bonus.
CK
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We don't know yet if we will sell the software with hardware or not. Anyway you have a good AIS Engine being sold by NASA Marine. ShipTrax will be fully compatible with it.
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No, AND, I don't....this would be my first. It was either that or one of the USB
radios with the IF output. If that AISENGINE is 2 channel that's a real bonus.
CK
CanadaKen,
I don't know when I'm going to get around to testing the AIS Engine, but I did find this website whilst I was considering the purchase.
http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Upgrades/AIS.htm
http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Upgrades/Electronics.htm#AIS_Engine
One of the downsides of the NASA device is that it doesn't have any indicator lights on it. This shouldn't be a problem for you if you are near the sea and there are ships around, however, I'll probably do the LED mod shown here:
http://www.digiboat.com.au/NASA_DIY_LED.htm
I use ShipPlotter at present - a free download is available (21 day trial?) and it is written to work with the NASA AIS Engine. The interface isn't as nice at shown on the ShipTrax screenshots, but if you did get the AIS engine before ShipTrax was released, it would allow you to test reception.
All the best
Allocator
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Hi Allocator
After looking at those sites and following some of the links I took a good look at the SR161 reviews and it seems to be a much more sensitive receiver than the NASA AIS Engine. And, surprisingly, cheaper for me to buy!
The SR-162 dual channel is pricey but looks like a VERY well made semi-pro unit.
Oh what to do...what to do? :-)
CK
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Hi.
Very good idea with the Airnav Shiptrax. Hopefully as good as Airnav Radarbox software :-)
But one question. Will there be FTP possibility as in Shipplotter?
Cheers / Lars
www.vhf-online.dk (http://www.vhf-online.dk)
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Hi guys,
in website the shiptrax page dont work.
Can you see what's happen?
Thx.
Best regards.
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The website is not yet developed. Anyway you will find it at (in aprox 1 month):
http://www.airnavsystems.com/shiptrax
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OK, thx, guys.
Regards
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It also works with discriminator output receiver ?
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I think that it's only going to work with serial (RS232) input and not audio via a discriminator output.
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The ShipTrax hardware will have 2 outputs: serial and USB. Serial as most applications are compatible with it, USB as it is easy to setup and use.
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Hopefully your new AIS hardware will be as good or better than the SR162.
It sure beat up on the NASA AIS receiver.
http://web.arundale.co.uk/docs/ais/sr162_nasa.html (http://web.arundale.co.uk/docs/ais/sr162_nasa.html)
CK
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Hopefully your new AIS hardware will be as good or better than the SR162.
It sure beat up on the NASA AIS receiver.
http://web.arundale.co.uk/docs/ais/sr162_nasa.html (http://web.arundale.co.uk/docs/ais/sr162_nasa.html)
CK
I'm not sure that you can compare the NASA AIS Engine and the SR162 - the SR162 cost 4 times as much as the NASA device here in the UK - ouch!
You gets what you pays for :-)
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You gets what you pays for :-)
True enough. I hope the same guy compares the new Comar-USB receiver with the SR162.
Ken
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AirNav, could you tell us if Shiptrax will be compatible with all ais receivers?
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Affirm. And you will have the option to buy with our own receiver too.
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update please airnav
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Project is a little delayed. We signed the contract for the 150 first units that should be delivered by mid August. Software 90% finished and looks amazing. At AirNav we are all aviation "freaks", some of us aviation professionals too but we are getting more interest on the ship spotting/ship industry. :-)
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Thanks for the update. I live beside the river Tyne in Newcastle Upon Tyne (UK) and my father is an ex old-salt who loves computers - what better gift!
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thanks, I am also an aviation crazy guy.. fly them aswell.. shipping would be a cool next step for me.. looking forward
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Hi
I would be very interested in shiptrax would it be a sort of setup like RB will we have to buy the setup as a full package..i would like to use it here in the Island of Guernsey as we are not too far from the French coast and we get lots of Cruise Liners here in the Summer please keep us informed
wheeler
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I would like to be able to import my own maps and delete your charts if you are going to use the "approximate" map as in RB. It would be very unrealistic for ships to sail over dry land on harbour approaches which I'm sure will happen if the RB type of connected straight line drawing was used. A link to Earth Browser would be a great help.
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I would like to be able to import my own maps and delete your charts if you are going to use the "approximate" map as in RB. It would be very unrealistic for ships to sail over dry land on harbour approaches which I'm sure will happen if the RB type of connected straight line drawing was used. A link to Earth Browser would be a great help.
ShipTrax uses OSM maps as standard.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7083/7240595146_3b05a95e72_z_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/7240595146/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
The only AIS targets I've ever seen on land are SAR helicopters, and one case of a boat being transported on a road trailer with it's AIS transmitter left turned on!!!